Trump's comments - NBC and Univision reaction

RTR91 · Jul 7, 2015

81usaf92 said:
You know, as much as I think of him as a long shot. He might just be the Republicans best chance to stop Hillary. I think Trump's campaign might have to be like Reagen did in 1980 in not being the run of the mill republican and then getting in Carter's face about issues. But then again reagen was Governor of California in the 70s before he ran for president. I think Jeb or Rubio are the most likely Republicans because of them being moderates compared to Trump and owning the state of Florida, and Kasich will probably be the VP canidate in hopes to get Ohio. But it can all change if someone folds under pressure. Take into account that reagen didnt control the primaries against Bush until he beat him in Texas in May.

I dont think Trump is Reagen but I think he can be a wild card in many different ways

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81usaf92 · Jul 7, 2015

Bamaro said:
Trump will never win the nomination. The presidency is even less likely than that.

Never said he would nor do i believe he will, but rather he would create more doubt for the Democrats. Bland canidates dont win elections, and Trump isnt one of them. Reagen won the 80 election by his mouth, and that was against a Georgia born incumbant. The debate was the nail in the coffin for Carter when Reagen destroyed him and held him liable for every single point.

As for 2016 it is for the Democrats to lose right now with most polls predicting 240(democrats) or so to 205 (GOP)with 85 swing votes at large (ohio and Florida among them). Jeb and Rubio will most likely go the Mitt Rommney and John Kerry route and basically say they dont agree with the current regime and say Bengazi this or IRS that and not have a strong overall platform, all the while the Democrats will probably lay out a more detailed plan of action and win the election easily. Trump presents a problem with both parties because he will make it personal. I dont think he survives past march in the primaries but he will make more people give a hoot.

Bama Reb · Jul 8, 2015

81usaf92 said:
Never said he would nor do i believe he will, but rather he would create more doubt for the Democrats. Bland canidates dont win elections, and Trump isnt one of them. Reagen won the 80 election by his mouth, and that was against a Georgia born incumbant. The debate was the nail in the coffin for Carter when Reagen destroyed him and held him liable for every single point.

As for 2016 it is for the Democrats to lose right now with most polls predicting 240(democrats) or so to 205 (GOP)with 85 swing votes at large (ohio and Florida among them). Jeb and Rubio will most likely go the Mitt Rommney and John Kerry route and basically say they dont agree with the current regime and say Bengazi this or IRS that and not have a strong overall platform, all the while the Democrats will probably lay out a more detailed plan of action and win the election easily. Trump presents a problem with both parties because he will make it personal. I dont think he survives past march in the primaries but he will make more people give a hoot.

I think that all depends on whether the left is more successful about making the issue about Trump than Trump is about getting those on the left to actually debate the many issues presently facing this country.
Unfortunately I think I already know the answer. The left is always more focused on killing the messenger than debating the issues.

GrayTide · Jul 8, 2015

I do agree that the Presidency in the 2016 election is the democrats to lose. Whether Trump is right or wrong in his comments (and he maybe politically right on a lot of issues); his arrogance and his inability (or unwillingness) to say what he wants to say in a less offensive manner is not what the American voters want to hear. He is his own worst enemy.

RTR91 · Jul 8, 2015

Here's why Trump is hurting the GOP.

Hillary Clinton says all GOP candidates are alike on immigration

Chuck Todd: Hillary Clinton shows 'no remorse, no regret'

Since this thread is about Trump, keep the replies about what involves Trump's immigration comments rather than the overall Hillary talk.

CajunCrimson · Jul 8, 2015

Cruz may be the one that ends up benefiting from the Trump hoopla....because he's taken the most direct approach to it. He didn't bash Trump -- he said he "understands" why he said it....and was happy that Trump has caused the topic to come to the forefront and be discussed.

If the Tea Party gets re-energized.....behind Trump. Cruz will benefit in the long run......

but, Trump as president would be entertaining, but insanely dangerous. We've gone too far left to get that kind of a "shock" to our system would be deadly.

But, it will be entertaining.

day-day · Jul 8, 2015

81usaf92 said:
Never said he would nor do i believe he will, but rather he would create more doubt for the Democrats. Bland canidates dont win elections, and Trump isnt one of them. Reagen won the 80 election by his mouth, and that was against a Georgia born incumbant. The debate was the nail in the coffin for Carter when Reagen destroyed him and held him liable for every single point.

As for 2016 it is for the Democrats to lose right now with most polls predicting 240(democrats) or so to 205 (GOP)with 85 swing votes at large (ohio and Florida among them). Jeb and Rubio will most likely go the Mitt Rommney and John Kerry route and basically say they dont agree with the current regime and say Bengazi this or IRS that and not have a strong overall platform, all the while the Democrats will probably lay out a more detailed plan of action and win the election easily. Trump presents a problem with both parties because he will make it personal. I dont think he survives past march in the primaries but he will make more people give a hoot.

Have the Democrats ever had a detailed plan of action regarding elections? Their action is to take what a Republican says and spin it and twist it into something completely different (e.g. a Republican mentions the need for welfare reform and the Democrats twist this into "the Republican wants to take food out of your grandmother's mouth). The Republicans put out some details while the swing voters follow the simplistic rhetoric put out by the Democrats. Trump seems to be following the Democrat's formula.

Tide1986 · Jul 14, 2015

81usaf92 said:
You know, as much as I think of him as a long shot. He might just be the Republicans best chance to stop Hillary. I think Trump's campaign might have to be like Reagen did in 1980 in not being the run of the mill republican and then getting in Carter's face about issues. But then again reagen was Governor of California in the 70s before he ran for president. I think Jeb or Rubio are the most likely Republicans because of them being moderates compared to Trump and owning the state of Florida, and Kasich will probably be the VP canidate in hopes to get Ohio. But it can all change if someone folds under pressure. Take into account that reagen didnt control the primaries against Bush until he beat him in Texas in May.

I dont think Trump is Reagen but I think he can be a wild card in many different ways

Setting aside his bombastic personality, here is one practical policy reason to run far away from Trump and of course never vote for him for any office, including county dog catcher:

http://www.nationalreview.com/node/265171/print

Donald Trump’s covetous nature is not in dispute, but what many may forget is that he’s no great respecter of the admonition not to steal, either: The man has a track record of using the government as a hired thug to take other people’s property.

This is called, of course, “eminent domain.” The Constitution’s Fifth Amendment allows the government to take private property for “public use,” so long as “just compensation” is paid. In the infamous 2005 Kelo decision, the Supreme Court held that “public use” could include, well, private use, so long as the new property owner paid more in taxes than the previous one. In other words, it allowed developers and the government to gang up on homeowners. The developer gets more land, the government gets more tax money. The only losers are the original owner and his prop

Bamaro · Jul 17, 2015

Donald Trump leads new national poll

Washington (CNN)Businessman Donald Trump leads a new Republican presidential nationwide poll released Tuesday, marking the first time he's held the top spot since announcing his candidacy.

Trump secured 17% support, according to the Suffolk University/USA Today survey. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush garnered 14%, while the rest of the 2016 field remained in single digits: Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, the newest entrant to the race, was at 8%; Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 6%; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 5%; Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 4%; and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 3%.

All other Republican hopefuls received less than 2% of the vote -- and about one-third of GOP voters -- 30% -- remain undecided about who they will back.

The poll's margin of error is plus or minus 5.25 percentage points.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/14/politics/donald-trump-leading-poll/

GreatDanish · Jul 17, 2015