Re: NBC/Marist Polls Show Donald Trump Running Strong in Iowa, NH
Trump vs Biden? We are doomed.
Trump vs Biden? We are doomed.
I will be really surprised if Hillary will crash and burn (polling-wise). i will be surprised if the media will allow this to happen. It is her turn, after all.I wouldn't be too surprised to see Biden enter it to try to save the party after HC crashes and burns over the email fiasco but I still wonder if Trump has the staying power.
I will be really surprised if Hillary will crash and burn (polling-wise). i will be surprised if the media will allow this to happen. It is her turn, after all.
True, but the imperative of "time for a woman in the White House" got trumped by the "time for an African-American in the White House."Many people said the exact same thing in 2008
And the only reason Joe Biden was chosen for VP is that it was "his turn".I will be really surprised if Hillary will crash and burn (polling-wise). i will be surprised if the media will allow this to happen. It is her turn, after all.
Biden has that "bubba from next door" thing going for him. He's no rocket surgeon, but he is, I believe, much more approachable than Nurse Ratchet.
Trump vs. Biden would probably not be the greatest intellectual contest ever.
:conf3:And the only reason Joe Biden was chosen for VP is that it was "his turn".
Choosing it's leadership within the party based on one's ''turn'' seems to be a dangerous trait among the Democrats.
Dangerous for the Republicans, too. This thinking gave them Bob Dole, John McCain, and to an extent, Mitt Romney. None were resounding successes.And the only reason Joe Biden was chosen for VP is that it was "his turn".
Choosing it's leadership within the party based on one's ''turn'' seems to be a dangerous trait among the Democrats.
I think the email thing will sink herDangerous for the Republicans, too. This thinking gave them Bob Dole, John McCain, and to an extent, Mitt Romney. None were resounding successes.
The Democrats don't have many good options. Bernie is pretty far left, even for the Democrats.
O'Malley is a good-looking guy, but an unknown.
Biden is a bubba, prone to inserting his foot into his mouth.
Gore is, literally, a loser.
Unless Hillary is indicted (and members of the ruling class do not get indicted), I think they will keep Hillary and execute a CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain) with her.
You may be right. I wouldn't underestimate the Clinton machine. They are good at what they do.I think the email thing will sink her
What difference at this point does it make?I think the email thing will sink her
My best guess is that Biden will swoop in as the white knight to "save the party". I don't think Bernie is electable nationally and O'Malley and Webb have gained practicably zero support so far.You may be right. I wouldn't underestimate the Clinton machine. They are good at what they do.
If the party does dump Hillary, who do you think will be the heir apparent?
I had forgotten about Webb. I actually like him. In an election between Trump and Webb, I'd definitely vote for Webb.My best guess is that Biden will swoop in as the white knight to "save the party". I don't think Bernie is electable nationally and O'Malley and Webb have gained practicably zero support so far.
I really don't think it was. He was not the establishment Republicans' choice.It was Reagan's turn in 1980.
It's more likely that the Dems will see that Hillary is no longer electable and not want to nominate any other candidate., They may then try to rescind the 22nd Amendment so they can let Obama run again.My best guess is that Biden will swoop in as the white knight to "save the party". I don't think Bernie is electable nationally and O'Malley and Webb have gained practicably zero support so far.
???????????????And the only reason Joe Biden was chosen for VP is that it was "his turn".
1960 - it was Nixon's turnChoosing it's leadership within the party based on one's ''turn'' seems to be a dangerous trait among the Democrats.
Any amendment to repeal the 22nd would have to be passed by both houses of Congress AND ratified by 3/4 of the state legislatures. In light of the fact the Republicans own BOTH houses of Congress and BOTH houses of legislature in TWENTY-THREE states......I'd say the chances of this happening are about the same as they are of Sarah Palin getting elected next November. In fact, she has a better chance than any such amendment would.It's more likely that the Dems will see that Hillary is no longer electable and not want to nominate any other candidate., They may then try to rescind the 22nd Amendment so they can let Obama run again.
We're a long way off. Furthermore, Trump has hardly undergone the scrutiny that accompanies success. The focus on things that will turn people against him won't really happen until the GOP field dwindles way down, maybe even until after the first contest or two. This happens with all of them - a "fresh face" (admittedly hard to see Trump as such since he's been in the public eye for over three decades) comes on the seen as a "truth teller" and the people respond to his jibes about others (in this case, immigration). Then they find out things he's done that they can apply to themselves and the poll numbers implode. One possible advantage that Trump has that Perot did not have is that since he is IN the party at this point, the guns are not nearly aimed as squarely. Perot had not one but two parties firing shots at him and tearing away his support from both sides. Trump will face this problem if he does, in fact, run as an Indy.A few weeks ago if someone said that they thought Trump could get the nomination I would have said they were nuts. Today I'm not so sure. I still think it will be an "establishment" candidate that will get the nomination but I sure wouldn't rule Trump out. Concerning the voters, talk is cheap. It will be interesting to see how they feel when it comes time to actually cast a vote. Its still the silly season.