News Article: Scarb: If Muschamp's the Best Defensive Mind in Football, What Does that Make Kiffin?

Misquoted: Best defensive meme in all of football.:wink:

I have no problem with him being confident in his guy. And Muschamp is a great defensive coach.

But he's not the best in college, much less all of football.

Take a look at the last 2 programs muschimp has been involved with. Texas and UF. Enough said. We lit him up last year with a running back playing QB.

TideEngineer08 said:

I have no problem with him being confident in his guy. And Muschamp is a great defensive coach.

But he's not the best in college, much less all of football.

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I agree and, not saying auburn will win the SEC, but I think you can expect an improvement in their defense.

TideEngineer08 said:

I have no problem with him being confident in his guy. And Muschamp is a great defensive coach.

But he's not the best in college, much less all of football.

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he's not even the best in the conference

GrayTide said:

I agree and, not saying auburn will win the SEC, but I think you can expect an improvement in their defense.

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sure, but there's really only one direction to go

GrayTide said:

I agree and, not saying auburn will win the SEC, but I think you can expect an improvement in their defense.

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Muschamp is a good coach but could their defense be much worse than last year? Practically any DC would get better defensive production.

russtang said:

Muschamp is a good coach but could their defense be much worse than last year?

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Yes. Please see the 2012 Iron Bowl for details.

Muschamp may the best defensive mind in football. Even if that IS the case, it does not make him the best defensive coach in football. The key is getting players to execute what that mind creates.

The jury is most definitely very much out on that.

Gus said Muschamp wasn't just the greatest defensive mind in college football but the greatest defensive mind in all of football. Imagine what the final points and yards total would have been if not for the 4 turnovers..





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Even if Muschamp is the best, what the heck does that have to do with Kiffin?

B1GTide said:

Even if Muschamp is the best, what the heck does that have to do with Kiffin?

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Kiffin was heavily scrutinized about not meeting unrealistic expectations at USC, and CNS is the laughing stock of the whole offseason for hiring him to replace a semi broken offensive system.

Muschamp is not as scrutinized at all for not meeting totally reasonable expectations at Florida, and Malzahn is viewed as a genius for hiring him to fix a totally broken defensive system

Kiffin destroyed mushamps defense and outpaced malzahn's offense last year and was viewed as the inevitable weak link in a CNS team even though Kiffin has a far better track record as an OC than anyone is willing to admit, but Muschamp is viewed as a savior to an Auburn team that lacks the depth needed to run his system and Muschamp quiet possibley owes people like CNS,Charlie Strong, and Mack Brown for gift wrapping his defenses more than people are willing to admit.

B1GTide said:

Even if Muschamp is the best, what the heck does that have to do with Kiffin?

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To your point, Scarbinsky raised this question himself:

Of course, one game doesn't establish one coach's superiority over another. That's something earned over time, but that sunny afternoon in Tuscaloosa was one of Muschamp's darkest days.

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Scarbinsky's article then, of course, uses one game to establish Kiffin's superiority over Muschamp.

I hate when I agree with the idea of an article, but the author does something that screams, "Please, just click on me!"

GreatDanish said:

To your point, Scarbinsky raised this question himself:


Scarbinsky's article then, of course, uses one game to establish Kiffin's superiority over Muschamp.

I hate when I agree with the idea of an article, but the author does something that screams, "Please, just click on me!"

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Not Kiffin related but pertinent nonetheless, Saban's Bama has scored 37, 38 and 42 (all time tot O of almost 700 yards) points vs Muschamp's D's. This at 2 talent laden programs: Texas and UF. And even though the Texas score is misleading regarding the D, that was a one-legged Bama O, crippled by a wounded QB, and still had two 100 yard rushers.

It will be interesting to see what CWM shows over time and against big time offenses. Saban demoted him from DC at Miami. The D improved from 18th in the NFL to 4th, including being the last team to shut out the Patriots.

BamaInBham said:

Not Kiffin related but pertinent nonetheless, Saban's Bama has scored 37, 38 and 42 (all time tot O of almost 700 yards) points vs Muschamp's D's. This at 2 talent laden programs: Texas and UF. And even though the Texas score is misleading regarding the D, that was a one-legged Bama O, crippled by a wounded QB, and still had two 100 yard rushers.

It will be interesting to see what CWM shows over time and against big time offenses. Saban demoted him from DC at Miami. The D improved from 18th in the NFL to 4th, including being the last team to shut out the Patriots.

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And that could have made a good point to base an article on.

I believe CWM is probably the best defensive mind to ever coach at AU. I also think CWM was a student of CNS so it would be hard to put him over his teacher. CWM is very possibly on the same level as Coach Smart, it remains to be seen if Ol Will is better than Coach Smart. We should know the answer in a couple years.

capnfrog said:

I believe CWM is probably the best defensive mind to ever coach at AU. I also think CWM was a student of CNS so it would be hard to put him over his teacher. CWM is very possibly on the same level as Coach Smart, it remains to be seen if Ol Will is better than Coach Smart. We should know the answer in a couple years.

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Idk if mush is the greatest defensive mind to ever coach at auburn because bill Oliver falls into that discussion and he created one of the best defenses for bama in 92. He didn't make near as great at auburn but he still went there.

I think the question I really have is has muschamp really benefited from other people creating monster defenses for him or is he really that great. At lsu I think many agree CNS was the biggest reason, at auburn you have to credit that more to chizik for making that great defense and they haven't had a great defense since, texas really had an average to slightly above average defense under him, and at Florida you pretty much have to credit that to Charlie strong. This is probably the worst fix up job he has ever been faced with.

RTR91 said:

Thought the column was pretty self explanatory.

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Not to me - even the article says that one game proves nothing. The title and premise are not logical. This was written to get clicks from Alabama fans. The article itself was as meaningless as a typical Yahoo story.

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