The Debates

Bazza

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Normally the debates are fairly ridiculous, IMHO.

Everyone says they're going to fix things.

Oh yeah......when have we heard THAT before? :rolleyes:


Other than Trump dressing down some of the other "contestants"....seems like it will be the same-o same-o.

What do you folks think?
 

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Normally the debates are fairly ridiculous, IMHO.

Everyone says they're going to fix things.

Oh yeah......when have we heard THAT before? :rolleyes:


Other than Trump dressing down some of the other "contestants"....seems like it will be the same-o same-o.

What do you folks think?
i am looking forward to not watching them
 

Aledinho

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Trump will make these debates fairly useful because we will get to see how the Republicans candidates would deal with delusional power hungry megalomaniacs like Putin and Kim Jong-un.
 

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Since I'm likely voting for one those fellows I'm going to try to watch.
 

selmaborntidefan

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Debates are literally pointless. In the Internet age, we don't even need them. This is not the 1960 election where the only image most people will have of the candidates is what they see on TV (and a lot of folks didn't even have TV that year). Politics in this country is nothing more than your old high school chums running for whatever office or whatever homecoming queen. The girl who is the prettiest or put out the most or has the biggest rack is going to win anyway. Nowadays nobody can say anything without Facebook blowing it sky high.

Furthermore, we have learned since Ford botched the question on Eastern Europe to simply regurgitate the best hits from the campaign trail. Too many moderators (Candy Crowley, Jim Lehrer) have the naive idea anyone wants to watch them. And the notion in this day and age that there are "undecided voters" in October is laughably absurd - if you're undecided then, you damn sure don't know enough to be able to "ask the candidate a question." Egomaniacs wanting to be on TV so they can tell their buddies how they "stumped" the candidate they hate.

It is a total waste of time and the pols never say much anyway. I can tell you right now how this whole campaign will go without even watching it:

1) The Republicans will nominate a half-Democrat, believing that crap about "appealing to the center" (gee, tell me how that worked for Dole, McCain, and Romney)

2) Whichever Democrat is nominated will be blasted as "the most liberal (whatever office) in the US (whatever)"

3) No matter what numbskull the Democrat VP is, it will be considered a stroke of genius - they could pick Quayle and the press would say, "They're showing great diversity reaching out to the right-wing illiterate vote."

4) No matter who the GOP Veep is, he will be blasted as the dumbest person on the planet (Agnew, Quayle, Cheney, Palin, Ryan) and "an extremist"

5) We'll hear about the war on women by the GOP and the war on Christianity by the Democrats, both having the barest relation to the truth at best

6) The country as a whole will lose no matter which leftist or half-leftist gets elected.

There - I just saved you the time watching it. The only real "surprise" might be if there's a Republican who can campaign as the Reagan/Bush43 sunny optimist and sound hopeful about the future. You'd think with 16 candidates at least one would be pretty decent.

but you'd be wrong.

And things aren't any better on the Democrats side, either. Hillary is a horrible candidate, Saunders is a socialist in the McGovern mold, and O'Malley isn't known outside the boundaries of Maryland anyway.

I don't know who the winner will be but I can damn sure tell you who the loser will be - those of us who have to live with the results.
 

selmaborntidefan

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Trump will make these debates fairly useful because we will get to see how the Republicans candidates would deal with delusional power hungry megalomaniacs like Putin and Kim Jong-un.
I'm sure a few have come up with rehearsed lines:

"Whoa Don, better inhale...."

"How is a guy who filed for four corporate bankruptcies running as a fiscal conservative? You DO realize you don't have this option with the federal budget, don't you?"

And my personal favorite that I came up with:

"Don, I enjoyed reading "The Art of the Deal," I'm stuck in Chapter 11 - four times."
 

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Trump will make these debates fairly useful because we will get to see how the Republicans candidates would deal with delusional power hungry megalomaniacs like Putin and Kim Jong-un.

Well a fair number of them already have experience dealing with "delusional power hungry megalomaniacs" in our own country.
 

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Well, normally, I don't bother. It's just political theater. However, Trump's political theater is at a whole new level, so I may have to watch him, at least, just for the shock value...
 

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Since it's all entertainment anyway, they should make it like the Hunger Games. Albeit instead of getting killed maybe the losers just can't run again. Model the challenges after real world scenarios a president faces, so they don't just tell us how they'd deal with it, they show us.
 

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While I agree with Selma that they are in large part pointless, and I may be overreacting or misinterpreting your meaning, I just don't get not watching, or watching just for entertainment value.

I watched the "minor leagues" and will watch the "major leagues". When the Democrats have one I will watch them too. I don't understand why people would not if they are going to base their vote on what the candidate is actually saying. One should read their web pages, read the planks of the parties, especially of those that have no chance of voting for.

I think people should spend more time reading and listening to those that they normally disagree with. If I am to know if I disagree with them, I need to know what they actually said. Those that do not do due diligence are voting out of ignorance. IMO that is worse than not voting at all. The only option to not watching or reading to do your due diligence is to get biased summaries or incomplete sound bites from the media.

Maybe I am naïve, but I still take my vote that seriously.
 

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I would like to watch, but I don't know if we'll end up watching them or not. Chasing a toddler around the house doesn't lend itself to being able to focus on the tv for very long.

While I still think Trump is a narcissistic, disingenuous blowhard, I enjoy how uncomfortable he makes the GOP.
 

Bazza

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For me it's entertainment but also I do take some interest in what's happening in the political arena......

It's truly sad that we don't have candidates any more we can admire.

I always feel we are watching car salesmen more than statesmen.

Back to the entertainment aspect......

 

TideEngineer08

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For me it's entertainment but also I do take some interest in what's happening in the political arena......

It's truly sad that we don't have candidates any more we can admire.

I always feel we are watching car salesmen more than statesmen.

Back to the entertainment aspect......

Oh man... those were the days. Look at Al Gore trying to be a tough guy.
 

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It could be a comedy or a tragedy! You will not know which unless you watch it.

I'm hoping that _____?_____ and _______?_____ have a great showing at the debate so that their chances will be better for winning the nomination. I hope that ______?______ screws up big time and his candidacy sinks like the Titanic!
 

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It is hard for anyone to stand out in a debate with 10 people participating, but I'm sure Trump will try.

Biden has been making noise recently about joining the Democrats' clown car. With him, Hilary and Sanders, whoever winds up driving will be going 50 in the left lane.


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