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Re: Plain Trouble on "Da Plains" (all AU posts here)
And Owens did signal for the clock to roll.
LSU was out to lunch from :55 to :35. Not like they were being as urgent as they should have been.
And Owens did signal for the clock to roll.
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the only reason i even watched that final drive is because i knew that with les involved, it would be interesting.
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And I watched it over. I never saw anyone motion for the clock to start. The SEC should not allow home teams to administer the clock. It is a clear conflict of interest.
I agree with this. He was clearly out of bounds which should have stopped the clock. I do think Les mismanaged the clock and should have questioned the clock several times along the way as precious seconds ticked off after plays ended and his TO.
And I watched it over. I never saw anyone motion for the clock to start. The SEC should not allow home teams to administer the clock. It is a clear conflict of interest.
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Doesn't the official have to be in position, too?
The picture you posted yesterday showing him winding his arm also shows another official over the ball, so LSU couldn't have snapped the ball in time.
Doesn't the official have to be in position, too?
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owens wasn't winding the clock, he was yelling "go, go, go, go"
owens wasn't winding the clock, he was yelling "go, go, go, go"
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Remember the tree burning guy is German...
Remember the tree burning guy is German...
Re: Plain Trouble on "Da Plains" (all AU posts here)
The picture I posted was Owens getting ready. He was out of the frame when the ready for play was signaled, but there was a whistle and a motion to start the clock.
The official got out of the way before the signal was given. Watch the replay. He was past Fournette when the whistle sounded.
The picture I posted was Owens getting ready. He was out of the frame when the ready for play was signaled, but there was a whistle and a motion to start the clock.
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Totally agree Dub - there was some questionable clock operating but bottom line is LSU put themselves in a bad spot with poor clock management. Not the first time for them to do that
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Re: Plain Trouble on "Da Plains" (all AU posts here)
That has to be the fastest, most athletic chain crew in history to get those chains moved and properly placed in 3 seconds
Watched the last drive this afternoon, it is true a refund graciously ran the clock when it appeared to me the receiver got out of bounds. Also, on an LSU first down where the guy stayed in bounds, the clock was started just about 3 seconds after it was dropped for the first down.
That has to be the fastest, most athletic chain crew in history to get those chains moved and properly placed in 3 seconds
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Please know, I'm not excusing LSU's horrible clock management. Just felt like the officials didn't do the best job of handling the situation.
Just watched a replay. I can hear Owens' whistle blow in order to start the clock.
Please know, I'm not excusing LSU's horrible clock management. Just felt like the officials didn't do the best job of handling the situation.
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LSU could have balked, but it's hilarious watching them walk around at a leisurely pace while 20 more valuable seconds tick off the clock. Force out occurred at 1:23. They snapped at 1:03.
A force out runs the clock. That's what it was ruled.
LSU could have balked, but it's hilarious watching them walk around at a leisurely pace while 20 more valuable seconds tick off the clock. Force out occurred at 1:23. They snapped at 1:03.
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A hair under six, actually. Just watched the replay again. Watch the play clock.
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If nothing else the LSU wide receiver was still trying to get into a position when the ball was snapped. He was on the line of scrimmage so even if it had been snapped before the clock hit zero, LSU was not set. The play was illegal no matter how you look at it.
It almost seemed like LSU knew it could never win with a quick drive at the end of a game. I'm not sure they believed in themselves, is one reason they were just casually walking into position.
If nothing else the LSU wide receiver was still trying to get into a position when the ball was snapped. He was on the line of scrimmage so even if it had been snapped before the clock hit zero, LSU was not set. The play was illegal no matter how you look at it.
It almost seemed like LSU knew it could never win with a quick drive at the end of a game. I'm not sure they believed in themselves, is one reason they were just casually walking into position.
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Miles was a great recruiter and very good at preparation. His Achilles Heel was always his in-game coaching. His team usually had the game won or lost before the opening kickoff. They got NO help once it started.
He didn't make good in-game or halftime adjustments, and during the last two minutes of a game, he might be the worst ever.
I really believe it's what did him in.
Miles was a great recruiter and very good at preparation. His Achilles Heel was always his in-game coaching. His team usually had the game won or lost before the opening kickoff. They got NO help once it started.
He didn't make good in-game or halftime adjustments, and during the last two minutes of a game, he might be the worst ever.
I really believe it's what did him in.
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I agree with your assessment of some of Miles' coaching attributes. The bad ones contributed to his demise. But, IMO, his apparent refusal to change his offensive approach, especially after promising to do so, was the reason he was fired. After this was demonstrated against Wis, they were just waiting for an excuse to let him go. It just happened to be at AU.
I agree with your assessment of some of Miles' coaching attributes. The bad ones contributed to his demise. But, IMO, his apparent refusal to change his offensive approach, especially after promising to do so, was the reason he was fired. After this was demonstrated against Wis, they were just waiting for an excuse to let him go. It just happened to be at AU.
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LSU shot themselves in the foot long before the last play.
LSU shot themselves in the foot long before the last play.
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I agree with you in theory about the motion penalty, but it wasn't called and the boogs have made a living out of catching the officials off guard with man downfield for years. If they call the one at Auburn a couple of years ago, there is no kick six. If it wasn't called, it didn't happen so the issue is the clock. The officials obviously thought that LSU got the play off because they did not stop play. Hubert Davis and crew have had a tough couple of weeks and generally, I thought he was one of the better officials up until this year.
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YEA , Dupree was open 2 or 3 times on that last drive , twice in the endzone
YEA , Dupree was open 2 or 3 times on that last drive , twice in the endzone
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We blew coverage once. The other was the play where Lawson ran right by the tackle, Fournette and was in Etling's face and had the sack before it mattered. Wouldn't put much stock into that one. Play was long over.
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