Mark Richt is a Good Man?
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Fair enough. I haven't seen him say that kind of stuff personally, but like I said earlier I don't follow him closely either. If he is looking down his nose in any kind of "holier than thou", self-righteous Pharisee kind of way, then that's a problem for sure. Whether he is sincerely a nice guy or not, bottom line is that he has to produce in his job just like anyone else or he should be held accountable for it. Not debating that at all.
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I agree. Just because his players don't always live by his faith, that is not his fault. I teach my tail off every day, but only those students who listen and apply themselves receive the full benefit of the education I offer. As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.
Living in Atlanta you get to see it, all the time. The "Richt is not just great but also better than you and every coach out there because he refuses to cut corners" PR Mantra is all over the place. This insinuates that the only thing that separates Richt from Saban and the other coaches that actually accomplish things in college football is that everyone else is dirty.
the difference here of course is that you likely don't get to choose your students, he does and fills his rosters with thugs
well said. I'm getting tired of it all. Especially the implication that other coaches must be "lesser" men that don't measure up to his most awesome goodness. (GAG)
The only way I could know if he is a good man or a sincere Christian is to know him personally or know someone well who does know him personally. Other than that would be my opinion unless there are trusted news media reports to the otherwise.
Sometimes I believe that the term "good" is used far too loosely when describing people. Mark Richt is by all accounts a devout man. He has a calm demeanor. He adopts orphans. He smiles a lot. That's all very nice.
He always has a talented roster, but his teams are not disciplined. They play well when facing an overmatched foe or when everything is going their way, but the first sign of adversity causes them to fall apart.
Richt is in his 15th season at Georgia and his records are as such:
Early in his career, he was much more consistent, but over the last 8 seasons, he makes precipitous drops after successful seasons. During the late 2000's, his teams were heavily penalized. They seem to have made some strides in that, but they are still inconsistent. In Richt's first eight seasons at Georgia (2001-2008), the Dawgs only lost 6 games by a two-TD margin or more. In his six and almost a half seasons since 2008, the Dawgs have lost 10 (including the 28-point win by Bama last weekend) contests by a two-TD margin or more. The average margin of loss in Richt's first eight seasons at Georgia was 9.6 ppg. In the last six and almost a half, it is 11.3 ppg.
In comparison, under Saban Alabama has only lost 3 games by 14 points (Utah in 2008, South Carolina in 2010, and Oklahoma in 2013) and none by more than that. Only in the Utah game did I ever see the Tide appear to develop a detached attitude when they went down 21-0 and they still came back within 4 of Utah (21-17) in the third quarter before Utah put the game away. In those three games, the opposing QBs had the games of their lives (Brian Johnson was 27/41 for 336 yards, 3 TDs, and 0 INT, Steven Garcia was 17/20 for 201 yards, 3 TDs, and 1 INT, and Trevor Knight was 32/44 for 348 yards, 4 TDs, and 1 INT). I still saw the discipline to keep fighting no matter how bad things got and I didn't see a lot of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties from frustration.
In Saban's eight and almost a half-seasons, the average margin of loss is 7 points. In the first six (2007 to 2012) it was 6.7 ppg and in the last two and almost a half it has been 7.8 ppg. After a 7-6 start (on the field) in 2007, the records have been 12-2, 14-0, 10-3, 12-1, 13-1, 11-2, and 12-2. There's consistency season after season, there's consistency from game to game, and there's consistency within the game. The players "do their job", they don't panic or throw in the towel when things don't go their way, and they typically beat who they are supposed to beat and give everything they've got to compete against teams that they are more evenly matched against.
In both the Blackout game and the Washout game, Georgia started falling apart when adversity showed its face and that indicates that they are not disciplined. You look on their sideline for someone to take charge and get in people's faces and you'll see that emotionless, blank stare under the headphones which gently undulate his lifeless sandy coiffure from his monotonic, nonchalant discussion with someone, somewhere. I don't think I've ever seen any change in his posture or expression even when one of his players commits a monumentally absurb and unnecessary penalty at the most critical point of a game. He may be like General Patton at Cheppy-Lorraine for all I know in the locker room, but on the sideline he turns into Marshal Petain at Compiegne.
He always has a talented roster, but his teams are not disciplined. They play well when facing an overmatched foe or when everything is going their way, but the first sign of adversity causes them to fall apart.
Richt is in his 15th season at Georgia and his records are as such:
| Year | 2001 | 2002 | 2003 | 2004 | 2005 | 2006 | 2007 | 2008 | 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2015 |
| W | 8 | 13 | 11 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 6 | 10 | 12 | 8 | 10 | 4 |
| L | 4 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 |
| % | .667 | .929 | .786 | .833 | .769 | .692 | .846 | .833 | .615 | .462 | .714 | .857 | .615 | .833 | .800 |
Early in his career, he was much more consistent, but over the last 8 seasons, he makes precipitous drops after successful seasons. During the late 2000's, his teams were heavily penalized. They seem to have made some strides in that, but they are still inconsistent. In Richt's first eight seasons at Georgia (2001-2008), the Dawgs only lost 6 games by a two-TD margin or more. In his six and almost a half seasons since 2008, the Dawgs have lost 10 (including the 28-point win by Bama last weekend) contests by a two-TD margin or more. The average margin of loss in Richt's first eight seasons at Georgia was 9.6 ppg. In the last six and almost a half, it is 11.3 ppg.
In comparison, under Saban Alabama has only lost 3 games by 14 points (Utah in 2008, South Carolina in 2010, and Oklahoma in 2013) and none by more than that. Only in the Utah game did I ever see the Tide appear to develop a detached attitude when they went down 21-0 and they still came back within 4 of Utah (21-17) in the third quarter before Utah put the game away. In those three games, the opposing QBs had the games of their lives (Brian Johnson was 27/41 for 336 yards, 3 TDs, and 0 INT, Steven Garcia was 17/20 for 201 yards, 3 TDs, and 1 INT, and Trevor Knight was 32/44 for 348 yards, 4 TDs, and 1 INT). I still saw the discipline to keep fighting no matter how bad things got and I didn't see a lot of unsportsmanlike conduct penalties from frustration.
In Saban's eight and almost a half-seasons, the average margin of loss is 7 points. In the first six (2007 to 2012) it was 6.7 ppg and in the last two and almost a half it has been 7.8 ppg. After a 7-6 start (on the field) in 2007, the records have been 12-2, 14-0, 10-3, 12-1, 13-1, 11-2, and 12-2. There's consistency season after season, there's consistency from game to game, and there's consistency within the game. The players "do their job", they don't panic or throw in the towel when things don't go their way, and they typically beat who they are supposed to beat and give everything they've got to compete against teams that they are more evenly matched against.
In both the Blackout game and the Washout game, Georgia started falling apart when adversity showed its face and that indicates that they are not disciplined. You look on their sideline for someone to take charge and get in people's faces and you'll see that emotionless, blank stare under the headphones which gently undulate his lifeless sandy coiffure from his monotonic, nonchalant discussion with someone, somewhere. I don't think I've ever seen any change in his posture or expression even when one of his players commits a monumentally absurb and unnecessary penalty at the most critical point of a game. He may be like General Patton at Cheppy-Lorraine for all I know in the locker room, but on the sideline he turns into Marshal Petain at Compiegne.
Based on his humanitarian efforts, etc., I'm certainly willing to say Richt is a good man. That doesn't necessarily equate to being a good football coach, though he probably is a good coach, too. Not a great one, though. Both of those points miss a larger strategic reason that I want him in Athens coaching football.
Be grateful, Crimson brethren and sistren, that the sort of behavior we mock is happening to the Dawgs. Then silently hope it continues. Why? Because it will attract more of that sort of players to UGa, making it easier for us to recruit the likes of Drake, Sims, etc., from the state of Georgia. We get the type who will do things our way, they can have the head cases that want to woof, act like knuckleheads, be more "me" than "us", and generally of weaker will than our program requires.
Now, for the sake of clarity, I mean bad behavior; not criminal behavior. We WANT bad behavior in that program, folks. It makes it less hard for us to beat them.
Be grateful, Crimson brethren and sistren, that the sort of behavior we mock is happening to the Dawgs. Then silently hope it continues. Why? Because it will attract more of that sort of players to UGa, making it easier for us to recruit the likes of Drake, Sims, etc., from the state of Georgia. We get the type who will do things our way, they can have the head cases that want to woof, act like knuckleheads, be more "me" than "us", and generally of weaker will than our program requires.
Now, for the sake of clarity, I mean bad behavior; not criminal behavior. We WANT bad behavior in that program, folks. It makes it less hard for us to beat them.
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From the looks of what Mack has going on in Gainesville and the fact that we don't see them again in the regular season for another decade I doubt we play much anyway. Mack will have the Gators ahead of UGA till their fans finally decide they want to win more than they want to act self-righteous. So it's pretty much a moot point anyway
Like the "he's a good man" thing, there is another, "a team always reflects the coach", both are not always so.
I believe CMR to be a "good man", I also believe he is a "good coach", I do not believe he is an "elite coach".
I don't think his teams reflect his personality, and that is one of the things that keeps him from being "elite", his inability to control his players.
I guess I have to, begrudgingly, give Bobby Bowden "elite" status.
But BB could never control his players either, some of the dirtiest teams I've ever see on the field were Bowden teams.
And most folks always seemed to say, "Bobby Bowden is a good man".
Nick Saban is a butt, often loosing composer on the sidelines, his teams do not reflect his personality, because he can usually control his players, his teams are usually disciplined and in control.
Nick Saban is among the "elite of the elite".
Even though he gives $$$ and time to many good causes, there are few who are not Bama fans, who would say, "he's a good man".
Mt. 19:17 & Mk. 10:18
I believe CMR to be a "good man", I also believe he is a "good coach", I do not believe he is an "elite coach".
I don't think his teams reflect his personality, and that is one of the things that keeps him from being "elite", his inability to control his players.
I guess I have to, begrudgingly, give Bobby Bowden "elite" status.
But BB could never control his players either, some of the dirtiest teams I've ever see on the field were Bowden teams.
And most folks always seemed to say, "Bobby Bowden is a good man".
Nick Saban is a butt, often loosing composer on the sidelines, his teams do not reflect his personality, because he can usually control his players, his teams are usually disciplined and in control.
Nick Saban is among the "elite of the elite".
Even though he gives $$$ and time to many good causes, there are few who are not Bama fans, who would say, "he's a good man".
Mt. 19:17 & Mk. 10:18
Being a good man has nothing to do with how good of a football coach you are, how your players act, or what your record may be.
My son's best friend graduated from Bama and now works in the football recruiting office at Georgia.
He, now 26, has grown to know Coach Richt quite well and says that he is the most devoutly faithful person he has ever met.
He says that his top priority every single day is his family, taking the time to study the scriptures, and then to coach football.
He told a story of the two of them traveling to visit a top recruit. The phone rang and one of his current players Mother' had died. Coach Richt stopped the car. Turned to "Little Dave", and said, "We need to say a prayer". He then proceeded to pray for the mom, his player, and their family. They then canceled the recruiting trip, turned around, and drove to the players hometown to be there for support.
Is Mark Richt a good man? YES. He has his priorities in absolutely the right order.
Sip
My son's best friend graduated from Bama and now works in the football recruiting office at Georgia.
He, now 26, has grown to know Coach Richt quite well and says that he is the most devoutly faithful person he has ever met.
He says that his top priority every single day is his family, taking the time to study the scriptures, and then to coach football.
He told a story of the two of them traveling to visit a top recruit. The phone rang and one of his current players Mother' had died. Coach Richt stopped the car. Turned to "Little Dave", and said, "We need to say a prayer". He then proceeded to pray for the mom, his player, and their family. They then canceled the recruiting trip, turned around, and drove to the players hometown to be there for support.
Is Mark Richt a good man? YES. He has his priorities in absolutely the right order.
Sip
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I'm telling you now, he can't survive another Florida resurrection. If Mack gets them to SEC championships and the GA fan-base decides that they'd been or are being lapped by FL again they'll get rid of him. They'll make it graceful promote him to AD or he'll "retire" to work on a ministry, something like that.
Ouch.
CMR reminds me of another famous person, from Jawja..............some peanut farmer who was a "good man", and an incompetent, on the large stage. But, this isn't NS, so I'll quit while I am ahead.
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