Worst case scenario would be vacate not forfeit. Ole Miss will still have the loss counted.
Florida loses Will Grier for at least this year
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They really don't have to now - the Government will bail them out of 99% of any trouble they get in...
I wonder if the schools test for all NCAA banned substances or just illegal drugs...any schools, not specifically UF.
Good question. Not sure. But, he would have been tested by the NCAA several times before now as a student athlete and since his arrival In early 2014. It's why the bulking theory doesn't fit, unless it can be demonstrated that he bulked between the period of the last test to the most recent. Still, the university has been transparent and has said he gained 20 pounds. Hardly a bulking. I've seen players add muscle mass (not using banned supplements) and a 20 pound gain that made people take notice. I'm sure you have at Bama.
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Now that really is a JOKE!
The NCAA isn't quite as bad as the NFL but it's really a close second!
You needed to put that in blue font...
No. If he loses the appeal, he'll have to wait until the 7th game of 2016 to play and will be a RS Soph
http://www.gatorzone.com/carter/blog/2103
Just got caught up a bit on the thread. Good to see you here again G8RNGA.....was wondering where you were.
FWIW....I'm looking forward to having Treon as our QB going forward. He's proven to be very good under pressure and with our improved coaching staff and offensive package this season he should do just fine.
It's indeed a shame that Grier got himself in this jam but he has to own it. I hope he uses it as motivation to be a better/smarter person going forward.
Things were going so well this season for Florida....you had to wonder when something would happen to spoil the party.
Going to be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes....
FWIW....I'm looking forward to having Treon as our QB going forward. He's proven to be very good under pressure and with our improved coaching staff and offensive package this season he should do just fine.
It's indeed a shame that Grier got himself in this jam but he has to own it. I hope he uses it as motivation to be a better/smarter person going forward.
Things were going so well this season for Florida....you had to wonder when something would happen to spoil the party.
Going to be interesting to see how the rest of the season goes....
Hey Bazza! Yeah, I have to admit that work got in the way and I occasionally lurked around here. I can't agree with you more. I certainly don't think the season is lost and it wouldn't surprise me to see us finish as well (on paper) as we were going to with Grier. Just a really dumb move on his part, but I still believe it was an honest mistake. I have to remind my nephew who is a huge fan that at the end of the day these are still kids. I think at times people forget that. I made stupid mistakes between 18-21 and so now we know he's human.
For those who don't follow this team, the players were actually more respondent to Treon at the beginning of the season and Grier had to earn their trust as a leader. I couldn't agree with you more about him and the coaching staff and believe they will put him in the best position to succeed if he executes it to plan. There are 10 other guys on offense that will want to prove that one guy does not a team make!
Exactly. He wanted to whine about me not believing Grier a few pages earlier and now he agrees. Go figure.
Don't know if you can consider it "ruined" but it's probably safe to say y'all have no chance at the East now.
And yet he has people there strictly for his nutrition free of charge to talk to and/or ask about certain supplements and he did not do so. That tells me enough. You can believe his charade if you want but I think I'll skip.
McElroy and Treon Harris are on two different ends of the QB ladder.
i think it will be florida or kentucky (maybe) that ends up in atlanta this season. if florida wins the lsu or uga game, i think they are pretty much in. even if they lose to lsu and uga, uga will have to win out in their sec schedule to back in to the game with a tie breaker.
UF has a two game lead up on everyone in the East. If they lose to LSU, it would take 2 more losses from SEC teams to not go to Atlanta. They have UGA, Vandy, and USCe. Not sure how they lose to Vandy or USCe - not with this coaching staff and UGA doesn't scare anyone right now.
And UF "wasn't scaring anyone" last year when UF beat UGA. I wouldn't pencil in any wins..
well, if you lose to lsu and georgia and georgia wins the rest of their sec games, then you lose the tie breaker with them. if you lose to lsu and uga, and kentucky wins out, they go.
i don't think its even going to be a question as georgia will likely lose to florida and at least one of the kentucky/mizzou/barn games they have left. and i don't see kentucky ending the season with one sec loss, they still have 5 sec games to go.
so at least in my mind, y'all are a shoo-in
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according to a few of the uga friends i have, that would be a nightmare scenario as it would give richt "a successful season"
I think my comments were not interpreted correctly. So I'll try to explain.
1. I believe Grier and nowhere did he say he didn't take a banned substance or that he didn't know. Granted, he didn't check with the medical staff ahead of time, but let's not make assumptions about the product. I wrote that I don't condone what he did (which means I'm not stating he didn't take a banned substance without stating so). Somehow what I wrote was misunderstood. So help me understand where I changed my view. "What" he took is purely speculative because the university student policy is to not disclose that information. There are items on that list that won't turn a person into a bodybuilder or make them a better QB. We don't know what he took. And on his weight gain, that was also addressed by the university and it was 20 pounds in something like 18 months.
2. As to not going to play for the East. UF would have to lose 3 SEC games or to LSU and UGA. After LSU they play UGA, Vandy, and USCe - hardly a scare out of any of those. Grier wasn't the star on that team. They really don't have one. Mac has done a good job of creating plays from guys who were on the roster last year. I trust he'll come up with a game plan that matches Treon's strengths. For all that Grier did, he did it in a few quarters of a few games and still looked young in the pocket. The defense helped and they are still there. So are the other ten guys on offense.
3. My "whine" was to only post facts that are available and not jump to conclusions without knowing the entire story. He's a good kid, but he's a kid. What he did was wrong. He is suspended. I just don't agree with the term limit. That is my opinion.
As an aside, I'm not one to base quick judgements on people and feel that people should be given the benefit of doubt - especially when we know zip about this incident other than what was mentioned in the press conference and what the university provided in the blog link - not what the media wrote or social media said about what someone's brothers, cousins, friend on campus overheard in the cafeteria.
Cheers.
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Sorry, you are correct. Their win over us would be two losses for UF and a tie - they'd go.
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I've read where some say "I don't believe him (Grier)". What exactly did he say that would make anyone discredit what he said. The video is out there and his comments are public. Coach Mac said "he made an honest mistake", but Grier apologized for taking a banned substance and said he didn't check with the medical staff. He never said "I didn't know what I was taking". Is it that he was disingenuous in his apology? It's been said that he volunteered to come forward to address the media and that no one asked him to do that. Just curious what was dishonest.
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