Hey, man. Whatever milks your guernsey. :biggrin:No desire to reply to all the great intellectual points made against my theory, hypothesis, so I will not go down that road. I will just say what I think, feel, makes sense to me and leave it at that.
Absolutely correct.I do believe in evolution. To a point. The life on this planet evolved to perfectly fit the conditions and environment of this planet, no other! Atmosphere, gravitational pull, radiation, many variables come into play to why we are perfectly suited to Earth and not anywhere else in the solar system and possibly galaxy, universe as far as we know. Our conditions that suit us so perfectly would more than likely prove intolerable to any other life evolving from another physical, material planet, galaxy,
I don't know about that. Even we can visit inhospitable places for brief periods of time. We've walked on our own moon, after all. Even assuming there was intelligent life out there, what would keep us apart is distance and time.so it is unlikely at all that any aliens residing in the realm we exist in is visiting us!!
The universe is big. Unimaginably, mindnumbingly, outrageously big. The vastness of the distance between any two celestial bodies gives one pause if you realize just what kind of numbers we're looking at here.
13.7 Bya is the current estimate, but who knows what came before the Big Bang. Time and space behaved in a very abstract manner around the time our universe came to be.But I do not think that the realm of existence we reside in is all there is. 12, 13, 14 billion years that science calculates our universe's existence seems a long time to us humans but in the scheme of things is only a blink of an eye to say a trillion years ago or infinity.
Now black holes are actually something I know quite a bit about. There is very little chance our universe exists within a black hole. Let's delve into it.Black holes. Could black holes be the conception of future universes, realms of existence for matter to spring from in the distant future? Did our universe pop into existence from a black hole that existed in another universe in another parallel universe or long distant past universe that has long since died?
Imagine for a moment you're on a spacecraft sent to investigate black holes. You're in orbit around one and preparing for your mission. Your goal is to fly within event horizon and, I dunno, make some gravitational measurements or something.
We're going to bend some rules for our thought experiment here. You're spacecraft is indestructible, and won't be extruded into spaghetti by the intense gravity around the event horizon, and it's equipped with engines capable of FTL travel because Dub says screw physics.
As you approach your objective, you'll notice some odd things going on. For one, the black hole is apparently much bigger than you first thought. The event horizon's diameter is about the size of the moon, and you're about the same distance the earth is from the moon. But it's oddly filling up your entire forward view screen. Meanwhile, your rear view screen is acting odd too. The stars that were there before seem brighter, and there are more of them. You find this a bit disconcerting, but in the interest of science, you ardently press on.
Since your forward view screen shows nothing more than a featureless black bowl into which you're descending, your keep an eye on the rear one. As you keep going, the image in the screen shrinks, shrinks and shrinks some more. Eventually, all you see is a single point of light. After a minute or two, it winks out. Congratulations! You're within the event horizon.
Knowing your time is limited before you hit the singularity, you get to work with your measurements. Oddly enough, your instruments have gone crazy. They should all be pointing toward the singularity, but they are somehow indicating the singularity is all around you.
"Screw it. I'm outta here," you decide. You turn your ship 180 degrees and book it. Then you notice something odd. You're instruments indicate the singularity is getting closer! Utterly perplexed by this, you turn the ship up 90 degrees to fly vertically. More of the same. No matter what you try, all directions take you closer to the singularity.
This is clearly nonsense. You cannot believe what your instruments are telling you. It must be a malfunction.
But it isn't. It's the truth. There is no way out. There are no directions that point away from the singularity. Due to the Lovecraftian curvature of spacetime within the event horizon, all the trajectories that would carry you away from the black hole now point into the past.
You have just enough time to reflect on your foolhardiness before you are crushed down to the size of a carbon atom.
This is the definition of the event horizon. It's the boundary separating points in space where there are trajectories that point away from the black hole from points in space where there are none.
The black hole singularity always lies on the future light cone, whereas astronomical observations clearly indicate a hot Big Bang in the past.
Google "Heat Death of the universe." Interesting study for you.Yes I believe our universe will one day die as science predicts. All things physical, material, consisting of matter that lives, or has any kind of physical process that can be considered a process dies in my opinion. Atoms along with all matter in the physical realm are recyclable as energy is.
Even atoms will eventually disappear as protons will decay into their constituent quarks. All energy will eventually be homogenized throughout the universe and useless. Basic thermodynamics.
Ooh! Sounds new agey!That brings me to the question, what is the energy force of life? When the conception of life occurs, what is the force that kick starts life? We have in our power to manipulate DNA, genetics today, but we do not understand the process that triggers life. Is it magic? I don't think anyone believes that but there is something that conception, germination, whatever that occurs to make the manipulations of even man, say in a test tube, to become a life.
If we are looking at it scientifically, we must assume a natural cause.
There is no pinnacle. The simplest organisms thrive far better than we ever could. You harbor untold numbers of bacteria right now!Maybe we are the pinnacle of life, how the heck would I know one way or the other? Man lives these days on average a whopping 75 revolutions around a mid size star on the outskirts of one of who knows how many billion or trillion galaxies and we are supposed to know anything for certain about our origins? I know I am not smart enough to know and I have no degree from any prestigious university in any field of higher learning such as basket weaving and chair stacking!
Evolution is not goal oriented. YECs always like to prattle on about "transitional forms." It's important to keep in mind that you and I are transitional forms.
Evolution is the one that best fits the evidence.You may be right to call my ideas and beliefs harebrained! I do have a lot of hair for my age! Evolution may be all the answer you require but for me it raises more questions than it answers. Evolution alone that is! Evolution makes perfect sense for me when it is accompanied with intelligent design. We humans are undoubtedly animals in every sense of the word animal, but we are Earthly animals bound to live out our lives on the planet Earth. I do believe in a spirit, that life energy force that animates mere elements into life forms and I believe that spirit is eternal, infinite.
But to pretend science has all of the answers is about as unscientific as it gets.
May I recommend a link?
https://biologos.org
My answer is "definitely maybe."So to answer the the opening question, aliens--do they exist? I say yes they do!! I do not need to prove anything to anyone otherwise, I feel no burden whatsoever!! I am always willing to listen to proof, if you have any, that I am wrong. It better be convincing though and not a bunch of conjecture, hypothesis, guesses! I will still listen to those as you never know, my mind is always open for new ideas!
:cheers2:Great discussion, entertainment!!
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