Freshness of the Defensive Line

JBama_in_PCOLA · Oct 27, 2015

I haven't put up a topic in a while and now it's the bye and we will have some downtime. So, a couple of question:

We have platoons of DL going in for the speed teams at all times and we rarely have the same combination of DL in twice. I believe our DL is very fresh, but do you all think that the bye is coming at a good time for them?

Coach has admitted that byes don't always help the team. Our rotation isn't experiencing any major injuries to note right now. So my other is do you think it will hinder production in the future?

I don't think it will buy it's interesting to say how they will respond from having a bit of time off.

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b2v4ua · Oct 27, 2015

CNS said we needed this bye to heal up the nicks and that the players needed to do student things and take a mental break for a few days by not having to think about game plans etc.

TIDE-HSV · Oct 27, 2015

JBama_in_PCOLA said:
I haven't put up a topic in a while and now it's the bye and we will have some downtime. So, a couple of question:

We have platoons of DL going in for the speed teams at all times and we rarely have the same combination of DL in twice. I believe our DL is very fresh, but do you all think that the bye is coming at a good time for them?

Coach has admitted that byes don't always help the team. Our rotation isn't experiencing any major injuries to note right now. So my other is do you think it will hinder production in the future?

I don't think it will buy it's interesting to say how they will respond from having a bit of time off.

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In a way, I saw contradictions in his remarks about byes earlier and his later reference to their being dead-legged and needing a physical and mental break...

BamaDMD · Oct 27, 2015

I wondered about the DL also. It seems the OL needs it the most (or should need it the most), however the DL looked tired in the TN game and that seemed surprising with all the rotation and depth.

dtgreg · Oct 27, 2015

Coach lied! He had to. No time to be tired last week. Had to push on through. Coaches have to do that all the time. No excuses allowed, real or imagined. Everybody knew we were tired; coaches, players, fans, everybody. Just can't allow it to be an excuse.

JBama_in_PCOLA · Oct 27, 2015

TIDE-HSV said:
In a way, I saw contradictions in his remarks about byes earlier and his later reference to their being dead-legged and needing a physical and mental break...

Hence my post. Maybe there were dead legs out there. It sure seemed that way at points in the game.

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mittman · Oct 27, 2015

JBama_in_PCOLA said:
I haven't put up a topic in a while and now it's the bye and we will have some downtime. So, a couple of question:

We have platoons of DL going in for the speed teams at all times and we rarely have the same combination of DL in twice. I believe our DL is very fresh, but do you all think that the bye is coming at a good time for them?

Coach has admitted that byes don't always help the team. Our rotation isn't experiencing any major injuries to note right now. So my other is do you think it will hinder production in the future?

I don't think it will buy it's interesting to say how they will respond from having a bit of time off.

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I don't think there is a single player on our team that doesn't need a bye at this time. I doubt we will have any of the issues people normally associate with a bye against LSU. That doesn't mean I think we are assured a win, I just don't see us having focus problems.

mittman · Oct 27, 2015

TIDE-HSV said:
In a way, I saw contradictions in his remarks about byes earlier and his later reference to their being dead-legged and needing a physical and mental break...

Maybe. I saw it as addressing playing 8 straight games as much as playing a team coming off of a bye. The combination of the two probably makes it more evident.

RTR91 · Oct 27, 2015

TIDE-HSV said:
In a way, I saw contradictions in his remarks about byes earlier and his later reference to their being dead-legged and needing a physical and mental break...

He was probably speaking more to the players trying to get them to overcome the thought of needing the bye. After the win, he knew he could actually say it was needed.

B1GTide · Oct 27, 2015

Saban said after the Monday practice that the Alabama players were moving just as fast in practice as they had during previous weeks. He used it as evidence that they were not showing signs of physical issues from the previous 7 weeks of tough play. After the TN game he said that it was clear that they were tired.

Love Saban, but he is saying what the fans and team needs to hear, not what he is really thinking. He saw, just as we did, that the offense and defense both played really well on their last opportunities after TN had taken the lead. Physically exhausted teams just can't do that at the end of games. Maybe for a play or two, but not for an entire drive.

The reality - they may have been mentally tired, and they may have been nicked up, but they were not physically exhausted. They performed poorly because they just didn't give each play the focus that it required, and they have done this in earlier games. Blaming it on fatigue isn't going to get it fixed. To fix the problem, you have to address the problem. Some Alabama players are either taking plays off or losing focus - either way, same result.

92tide · Oct 27, 2015

JBama_in_PCOLA said:
I haven't put up a topic in a while and now it's the bye and we will have some downtime. So, a couple of question:

We have platoons of DL going in for the speed teams at all times and we rarely have the same combination of DL in twice. I believe our DL is very fresh, but do you all think that the bye is coming at a good time for them?

Coach has admitted that byes don't always help the team. Our rotation isn't experiencing any major injuries to note right now. So my other is do you think it will hinder production in the future?

I don't think it will buy it's interesting to say how they will respond from having a bit of time off.

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its been a tough season to date, so i think the time is good. also, i think this time might be good for further processing the untimely passing of tenpenny.

92tide · Oct 27, 2015

B1GTide said:
Saban said after the Monday practice that the Alabama players were moving just as fast in practice as they had during previous weeks. He used it as evidence that they were not showing signs of physical issues from the previous 7 weeks of tough play. After the TN game he said that it was clear that they were tired.

Love Saban, but he is saying what the fans and team needs to hear, not what he is really thinking. He saw, just as we did, that the offense and defense both played really well on their last opportunities after TN had taken the lead. Physically exhausted teams just can't do that at the end of games. Maybe for a play or two, but not for an entire drive.

The reality - they may have been mentally tired, and they may have been nicked up, but they were not physically exhausted. They performed poorly because they just didn't give each play the focus that it required, and they have done this in earlier games. Blaming it on fatigue isn't going to get it fixed. To fix the problem, you have to address the problem. Some Alabama players are either taking plays off or losing focus - either way, same result.

im guessing altee's passing had a pretty big effect on the team's energy this past week, that had to be hard on them.

B1GTide · Oct 27, 2015

92tide said:
im guessing altee's passing had a pretty big effect on the team's energy this past week, that had to be hard on them.

Perhaps, but he didn't pass the week before your other home games. This didn't happen in only one game - that was my point.

92tide · Oct 27, 2015

B1GTide said:
Perhaps, but he didn't pass the week before your other home games. This didn't happen in only one game - that was my point.

oh, i was talking about the d-line and looking sluggish/tired. the d hasn't been a problem at home

bamamc1 · Oct 27, 2015

mittman said:
I don't think there is a single player on our team that doesn't need a bye at this time. I doubt we will have any of the issues people normally associate with a bye against LSU. That doesn't mean I think we are assured a win, I just don't see us having focus problems.

I would be much more worried if we were playing say Miss. St. instead of LSU. We will be ready.

JBama_in_PCOLA · Oct 27, 2015

92tide said:
im guessing altee's passing had a pretty big effect on the team's energy this past week, that had to be hard on them.

That's one thing I didn't take into account. Mental exhaustion in my opinion weighs more than physical.

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B1GTide · Oct 27, 2015

92tide said:
oh, i was talking about the d-line and looking sluggish/tired. the d hasn't been a problem at home

Ahh, if we are just talking about the d-line, I never saw them look sluggish against TN. The LBs and Safeties were a little slow when defending the edge, but I thought that the D-line played very well.

I thought that the thread had migrated to the team in general. My mistake.

B1GTide · Oct 27, 2015

bamamc1 said:
I would be much more worried if we were playing say Miss. St. instead of LSU. We will be ready.

I tend to agree - the games in which you have struggled this year have had 2 things in common - you were big favorites and you were at home. I don't think that the problem was that you were at home.

92tide · Oct 27, 2015

B1GTide said:
Ahh, if we are just talking about the d-line, I never saw them look sluggish against TN. The LBs and Safeties were a little slow when defending the edge, but I thought that the D-line played very well.

I thought that the thread had migrated to the team in general. My mistake.

the first play i saw was the kickoff after we went up 19-14, so i didn't really get a good sense of things. the d looked pretty good the one series i saw them

JBama_in_PCOLA · Oct 27, 2015

92tide said:
the first play i saw was the kickoff after we went up 19-14, so i didn't really get a good sense of things. the d looked pretty good the one series i saw them

The last UT scoring drive they were gassed. The offense did by them some time and had a scoring drive of their own, and the defense sealed it.

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