Undefeated Pop Warner team horse collared by PC rules....

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"The Mitey-Mites is a training division that is not competitive," Pruce said Friday. "There's no winners or losers in our Super Bowl."
However, the teams played through a playoff system in 2014 and the top two teams went to Disney, according to Pruce.
Yes we are seeing the results on the college campus of not addressing the real world to the young. Competition with winners and losers was one of the highlights of my childhood. I can understand minimizing "losing" with the red ribbon, but not eliminating it. A "training division" in pop warner football? No, that is a clever disguise for a teaching philosophy from the adults.


 

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Remember folks, competition is bad because if you have competition you might have winners. As we all know, winning is bad because it's unequal, not everyone gets to win and that's not fair.
 

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Give me ambiguity or give me something else.
This is a training division, and as someone that has participated and coached youth sports, I can understand where Pop Warner is coming from here. There are competitive divisions, if that's what you want.

Should have announced after the season, though.
 

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This is a training division, and as someone that has participated and coached youth sports, I can understand where Pop Warner is coming from here. There are competitive divisions, if that's what you want.

Should have announced after the season, though.
Why have a playoff format in a "training division"? And in theory you can have a winner in a "training division". It makes no sense other than philosophical statement by the adults. They simply will not declare the winner, a winner!

Maybe the SEC should declare a training year? Just kidding. :)
 
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Why have a playoff format in a "training division"? And in theory you can have a winner in a "training division". It makes no sense other than philosophical statement by the adults. They simply will not declare the winner, a winner!

Maybe the SEC should declare a training year? Just kidding. :)
I never coached PW, so their format is foreign to me. But I have coached and played rec league soccer from the lowest division (takes all comers) to classic (tryouts). Each had a playoff and champion within their respective division.

Some of the comments (the ones not pinning this on Obama/Socialism) are pretty good:

At 7,8 and 9 - you might not really want them going full throttle in a full contact sport in order to win the trip.
I can see the reason why they went back to random.

And let's be clear - this is called and is a training league.

17 kids on the team? In Pop Warner you can have up to 35, 17 sounds like a team of ringers. I've seen this before where a team has only a small number of very talented kids gotten thru try outs and they don't have to do the mandatory plays for each kid. So you run a offence and defense with all top players and you don't have to sub in any not so good players. PW was started to give kids lessons in life of team work and fair play but for some all that matters is winning. Imagine all the kids this team turned away? BTW try outs are not allowed in PW, you take the first 35 kids and that's your team.
This is a suspicion I share, having seen unscrupulous coaches do it firsthand. 9 shutouts in a rec league? Something sounds fishy.
 

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Some of the comments (the ones not pinning this on Obama/Socialism) are pretty good:
People have a right to an opinion on an issue without being labeled politically with such a broad stroke. I zigzag on a lot of issues.
 
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Remember folks, competition is bad because if you have competition you might have winners. As we all know, winning is bad because it's unequal, not everyone gets to win and that's not fair.
Talk to any kid who played the game, and they will tell you the score. They know even thou they are required to act like they are all winners.
 
With things like this, how are children ever going to learn how to lose in life later on, cuz in life, you don't always get a participation trophy....and you don't always win. Just saying.
Exactly. I remember playing peewee football and we lost the championship game because of me. I was in tears. It also made me better too. This "training division" to me kinda sets the kids up for failure.

At the same time, I understand this. It somehow makes sense. I still don't like it. Everyone gets a trophy or nobody gets it. I don't know who came up with this but it's annoying.


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