News Article: Jameis Winston threatens to sue CNN over documentary

techster79 said:

DVR'd


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Al A Bama said:

I don't know if anything will change, but I would like to see the TRUTH come out and someone held accountable for their actions. If not legally, then financially.

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CoachJeff said:

The "documentary" is full of outright lies and misrepresentations. I don't know about the part with Winston, but there are other parts that are flat out dishonest.

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bama2112 said:

Well I did not know a thing about the CNN documentary . I hate it for Hueytown who gave us the Allisons and Neil Bonnett now they get to endure the enigma of Winston . Thank you little Jamie for becoming a Nole . He just gave them a huge ratings boost. And big payday for the lawyers.

"The Hunting Ground" debuted at the Sundance Film Festival earlier this year. The documentary, in part, highlights the rape investigation against Winston while he was at Florida State and features the first public interview from Winston's accuser, Erica Kinsman.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...-jameis-winston-threatens-sue-cnn-documentary

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TIDE-HSV said:

He's a fool if he lets himself be placed under oath...

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tattooguy21 said:

you genuinely believe he wouldn't lie under oath?

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Al A Bama said:

Are you sure? Do you have first hand knowledge that there are lies and misrepresentations? I'm NOT being critical of you, I just want the TRUTH brought to the light. I too would not want to be accused of something that I did NOT do, but I really would like to know the TRUTH. I do believe that people are in prison for being falsely accused and convicted of something that did NOT do, even rape.

Since I'm going to DVR it and watch it in my free time, please let us know what areas are flat out dishonest. I always CRITIQUE EVERYTHING that I watch, because I just don't want to be naive.

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Edward Patrick Alva, who is listed on the film's IMDB page as part of the camera and electrical department, has been altering Wikipedia entries for months, in violation of the website's conflict-of-interest guidelines. Alva is the assistant editor and technical supervisor for Chain Camera Pictures, the production company associated with "The Hunting Ground" director Kirby Dick.

Alva's Wikipedia username is Edwardpatrickalva, and he acknowledges in his user bio that he has "a conflict of interest when I edit articles on Wikipedia that are related to Chain Camera Pictures." Yet Alva continues to do just that.

Alva created his Wikipedia account just two weeks after Florida State University President John Thrasher first called out the filmmakers for their inaccurate and unfair portrayal of the school and its handling of the rape accusation against former star quarterback Jameis Winston. It wasn't until September 18, six months after creating his user profile, that Alva acknowledged he had been editing Wikipedia pages related to "The Hunting Ground."

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Last week, nineteen predominantly (if not entirely) liberal law professors from Harvard, with no ax to grind aside from promoting justice, wrote a stinging letter denouncing the film. The professors pointed out: "This purported documentary provides a seriously false picture both of the general sexual assault phenomenon at universities and of our student Brandon Winston." Among other things, the Harvard law professors explained that the film creates the false impression that Mr. Winston used drugs to sexually assault purported victims--the only problem, the law professors point out: there is no evidence whatsoever that Mr. Winston was responsible for the women's inebriated state.

How did the "documentary" filmmakers respond? "In statements sent to [The Hollywood Reporter], filmmakers Dick and Ziering said the professors’ reference to 'the "inebriated" state of the women who are portrayed in the film is classic victim blaming and is exactly the kind of misogynistic, punitive and shaming attitude that helps perpetuate sexual assault on college campuses.'"

Read it again. It was the film that opened the door to the issue of the women's inebriation by creating the impression that Mr. Winston drugged the women. The Harvard law professors merely pointed out that the actual evidence did not support this impression, but the filmmakers responded as if the professors invented the inebriation issue to make the accusers look like stereotypical "sluts." This takes "spin" to a new, diabolical low. Instead of dealing with silly things like facts, instead of refuting the professors' claims, the filmmakers were content to demonize the professors and resort to the worst kind of name-calling.

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"We do not operate the same way as journalists — this is a film project that is very much in the corner of advocacy for victims, so there would be no insensitive questions or the need to get the perpetrator's side," Herdy wrote.

Months later, in a follow-up email sent on Feb. 12, 2014, Herdy informed Carroll that the filmmakers planned to reach out to Winston but were sure he wouldn't respond. She wrote that she wanted him "to have a gap of a couple of weeks to get complacent because then we will ambush him." She also asked if Carroll and Kinsman were "okay with us sending [Winston] the official request this week."

For as long as this film has been promoted, advocates of due process and journalistic integrity have called it out for its indifference to the truth. The film didn't even attempt to corroborate the accuser's stories featured in the film and tried to contact those maligned in the film only after it had been completed and submitted to the Sundance Film Festival.

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Goldrush said:

I'm no fan of Winston, but this film is a steaming pile.

Here are the people that made it.

'The Hunting Ground' crew caught editing Wikipedia to make facts conform to film



Harvard law profs point out the evidence doesn't support accusations in "The Hunting Ground," the filmmakers accuse them of hating women



Emails reveal 'The Hunting Ground's lack of journalistic integrity



From the Duke lacrosse rape hoax to the Hofstra rape hoax. From the UVA rape hoax to mattress girl. There is a constant need to enforce the narrative of "rape culture" even if it does not exist.

I encourage everyone to investigate, dig deep, and draw your own conclusions.

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DzynKingRTR said:

explain.

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Tider n LA said:

Interesting first post I must say.

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TIDE-HSV said:

Not at all. I doubt his ability to keep his story straight and consistent, if he's crossed competently...

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mikes12 said:

I haven't seen the documentary in question, but I'm curious if it covered the story of Brian Banks. Can anyone who watched it confirm?

For reference, he was a highly tauted HS football recruit from California (committed to USC at the time) who was falsely accused of rape. He spent five years in prison, until the accuser was caught on tape admitting she made the whole thing up.

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TIDE-HSV said:

You can't do that in a civil trial. His deposition would be taken - under oath...

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Mystical said:

Wow never heard this story. 5 years is a long time to go to jail because someone was mad at you.

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