Virginia Tech Player Slaps Official

rgw · Nov 22, 2015

Ron Cherry gave him a stinkeye like no other.

Sabanizer · Nov 22, 2015

Aledinho said:
jamais winston repeatedly trying to push the ref off the ball so he can run a hurry up play.

I remember that, but I don't think it was in an assault like fashion, I believe that is what Crimsonaudio is referring to. Someone mentioned in this thread that he may not have meant to hit the ref? I have only seen this one angle, is that a possibility? From this angle it looks like an aimed karate chop!

Crimson1967 · Nov 22, 2015

Sabanizer said:
I hope so, I like Beamer. It's against everything a good coach is supposed to teach. It would concern me if this is overlooked.

I would hope so, but Beamer is out the door and may not want to make any waves as he sails towards retirement.

Gr8hope · Nov 22, 2015

I hate to bring this up but do you remember what Orlando McCain did? Glass houses folks?

crimsonaudio · Nov 22, 2015

Aledinho said:
jamais winston repeatedly trying to push the ref off the ball so he can run a hurry up play.

Yes, and while I thought he should have been ejected, I don't think it's the same thing as literally slapping an official.

BamaHoosier · Nov 22, 2015

Gr8hope said:
I hate to bring this up but do you remember what Orlando McCain did? Glass houses folks?

Verne, is that you?

mikes12 · Nov 22, 2015

CrimsonDollar said:
I mean, the referee was Ron 'Givin Him The Business' Cherry, so it kinda makes sense.

Refresh my memory. What's this in reference to?

crimsonaudio · Nov 22, 2015

mikes12 said:
Refresh my memory. What's this in reference to?

...which was an homage to:

James Eagle · Nov 22, 2015

Actions like this cannot be allowed. The played should be suspended for at least one game.

ccc2259 · Nov 22, 2015

You gotta be kidding me.........if that kid's not suspended I lose all respect I had (and I had a lot) for Coach Beamer.

CrmznApklps · Nov 22, 2015

Agreed that he should have been ejected, but the title is a tad misleading. I was expecting to see this kid SLAP the referee. I suppose our definition of "slap" is different. Was expecting hand-to-face. That aside. He should have been ejected for loss of his faculties. Calling him a "thug" though? Makes me wonder if what people say about the "thug" code word is true. ijs.

Tidewater · Nov 22, 2015

CrmznApklps said:
Agreed that he should have been ejected, but the title is a tad misleading. I was expecting to see this kid SLAP the referee. I suppose our definition of "slap" is different. Was expecting hand-to-face. That aside. He should have been ejected for loss of his faculties. Calling him a "thug" though? Makes me wonder if what people say about the "thug" code word is true. ijs.

I look at it as a guy having a temper tantrum about an earlier missed call and in the process of swinging his arms around, hits a ref.
Whether that constitutes being a thug or not, I will leave to others. I do believe he should have been ejected.

TrampLineman · Nov 22, 2015

The ACC should step in and do something.

Sabanizer · Nov 22, 2015

Tidewater said:
I look at it as a guy having a temper tantrum about an earlier missed call and in the process of swinging his arms around, hits a ref.
Whether that constitutes being a thug or not, I will leave to others. I do believe he should have been ejected.

mittman · Nov 23, 2015

I believe the contact was intentional. It appears to me he was knocking down the point to the defense side. IMO this should get a suspension. Whether this rises to the thug moniker is in doubt for me. I don't know enough about the individual. He defiantly lost his temper and let it get the best of him.

TideEngineer08 · Nov 23, 2015

Thug? No. That looked like a spoiled child that didn't get his way. He crossed a line, and should have been ejected and needs to be suspended. But that's up to the adults in this situation, whether or not they want to help the young man become a better, more mature person.

Intl.Aperture · Nov 23, 2015

crimsonaudio said:
If Beamer doesn't bench this guy, any respect I have for him is gone - that action is unconscionable.

Really? It took him 43 years of total coaching experience with 34 years as a head coach and 351 games played to gain the respect he has now and I see posted multiple times on here that despite an exhaustive body of work that extends more life than some of us have even lived that a single act by 1 player on 1 down is enough to erase any and all respect you for this man?

Pardon me for jumping on this in such a firm manner (because I know you're a mod : ) ) but that, to me, is absolutely ludicrous. Dadi Nicholas didn't pull out a nighstick from within his pads and bludgeon the ref into a coma. Yah, the ACC should suspend him, and maybe Beamer shouldn't even wait for that to happen to do it himself, BUT in no way should this moment obliterate a generation of consistent, fastidious and diligent work by an upstanding man.

I give the benefit of the doubt. Beamer knows his players personally and Dadi Nicholas has been in the program for a while and I'm confident Beamer's relationship with him has a deep foundation.

I only take exception to nullifying the Herculean efforts of this coaches career over an admittedly disappointing occurrence and behavior from one of his players.

Tidewater · Nov 23, 2015

Sabanizer said:

Yes, if you look at this video snippet, it looks intentional.
Nicholas had just made the same arm motion in exactly the same way a couple of yards behind the ref before he did this arm motion and hit the ref.
I think he should be suspended, but I am not sure he was trying to hit Ref. He was just really certain that the UNC o-line had moved before the snap, and Nicholas was ticked off that the refs missed that call.

Sabanizer · Nov 23, 2015

Tidewater said:
Yes, if you look at this video snippet, it looks intentional.
Nicholas had just made the same arm motion in exactly the same way a couple of yards behind the ref before he did this arm motion and hit the ref.
I think he should be suspended, but I am not sure he was trying to hit Ref. He was just really certain that the UNC o-line had moved before the snap, and Nicholas was ticked off that the refs missed that call.

I think "thuggish" behavior as an adjective would have fit, but the word has become taboo so it's best not to use. The closest I can think of with Bama is the McClain incident, as far as losing it.

CrimSonami · Nov 23, 2015

ESPN ticker states he's been suspended for the first half of next game. Don't know if was NZAA or VT decision.

Is that sufficient? I think not myself.

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