He would make Richt's life miserable in Georgia, particularly if that very good man runs off Pruitt, his best recruiter.SC is like Alabama, while the state does not produce the numbers of recruits that GA or FL, they do produce some very good players every year. USCe and Clemson battle for these players, but rely on NC, GA and FL to bolster their rosters. IMO Kirby, being the great recruiter he is, could actually recruit better than Spurrier and give Swinney a run for his money. I believe Kirby would be an excellent fit at USCe.
If Smart leaves I think he would probably call Pruitt, sure Coach Saban will.He would make Richt's life miserable in Georgia, particularly if that very good man runs off Pruitt, his best recruiter.
I don't think USC's history, excluding SOS and, to a lesser degree, Holtz, supports your point...SC is like Alabama, while the state does not produce the numbers of recruits that GA or FL, they do produce some very good players every year. USCe and Clemson battle for these players, but rely on NC, GA and FL to bolster their rosters. IMO Kirby, being the great recruiter he is, could actually recruit better than Spurrier and give Swinney a run for his money. I believe Kirby would be an excellent fit at USCe.
Thank you. Clemson is the state's Alabama, SC is Auburn, but historically more lopsided. I am not sure that the recruiting at Clemson is on the up and up, suspicious. I would not get near this job with a 10 ft. pole, it could be a coach killer imo. As another poster stated, Kirby should go the McElwain route. He's 39! His road back to Bama or Georgia is not through SC imo.I don't think USC's history, excluding SOS and, to a lesser degree, Holtz, supports your point...
Good point about LSU. LSU was an SECW also ran before CNS. Maybe more fertile recruiting ground, but considering the weakness of the SECE, probably a wash to compare the two (LSU pre-CNS and USCe post CSS).A coach has to seize his opportunities when they become available. To me, it all depends on what he's offered if he indeed is offered at all.
South Carolina has a good recruiting base if you include Georgia and North Carolina.
If they offer him 3 to 4 million a year for five years with a ten million dollar buyout, or something similar, he'd be crazy not to take it in my opinion. There's absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that he will replace Coach Saban, at least none that I know about.
He's earned the opportunity to better himself. Do I want to lose him? Heck no. But the man has to look after his on well being.
You gotta also remember, when Coach Saban left Michigan State for LSU, the LSU program was in shambles. A coach has to sometimes gamble on the possibilities rather than the securities.
Just my take on it.
Nothing at all may come of this, but if I'm Kirby, and it did, I'd jump all over it.
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..Good point about LSU. LSU was an SECW also ran before CNS. Maybe more fertile recruiting ground, but considering the weakness of the SECE, probably a wash to compare the two (LSU pre-CNS and USCe post CSS).
Not really comparing the programs' histories but their potential and where they where/are before CNS/post CSS. The thing most of us forget is how utterly average LSU really was before CNS. CSS proved USC could be a program to amount to something with some very good coaching...
AP top 25 end of season
SC - 9 - TWICE until 2000
LSU -36
MSU is the SC of the west. I won't even go into the huge difference between LSU and SC historically. Bowl games is a good place to start. LSU historically had winning season's South Carolina has not.
To really appreciate how bad SC was pre 2000, you have to see for yourself.
LSU owns their state in recruiting, SC is #2 in a state with less talent.
Not really comparing the programs' histories but their potential and where they where/are before CNS/post CSS. The thing most of us forget is how utterly average LSU really was before CNS. CSS proved USC could be a program to amount to something with some very good coaching.
If you "build a fence around the state," wouldn't your only competition for recruits be Clemson?For what it's worth, South Carolina, per capita, is behind only Louisiana in NFL players produced. If you could build a fence around the state, you'd be in good shape. Problem is, you've got Clemson to compete with, not to mention Georgia.
Things have definitely trended toward Clemson in the past few years. This state has great high school talent, if not in great numbers. Both Clemson and Carolina have to go elsewhere. Yet the fact that USC plays in the SEC has raised the school's profile throughout the Southeast.I hate to say it but I think Clemson now has a better chance to get the best recruits over South Carolina. USCe hasn't been good in a while if you think about it. If I'm a recruit from SC and want to stay in-state, at worst it's 50/50 Clemson or USCe.
That'll be Saban's first call, if CKS leaves...If CKS does take the USCE job It will be interesting to see what he does about staff. Do you think he try to get CJP from Georgia?