Except OU beat an OSU team that lost it's starting QB. Just like they bet Baylol without their starting QB. Just like they beat TCU without their starting QB.It is not fair to label Oklahoma State as not being a legitimate team but then to turn around and count UNC as being a legit team. UNC is not that good of a football team and has a much uglier loss than Ok. St. I'd take Oklahoma State over the Heels head-to-head.
Except OU beat an OSU team that lost it's starting QB. Just like they bet Baylol without their starting QB. Just like they beat TCU without their starting QB.
Seeing the pattern here?
Unless Watson gets knocked out early, I suspect OU won't look as awesome as they did against the row of second-and-third-string QB's they faced in their 'big' games...
I can see that, but I still don't think UNC belongs on the "legit team" list.Except OU beat an OSU team that lost it's starting QB. Just like they bet Baylol without their starting QB. Just like they beat TCU without their starting QB.
Seeing the pattern here?
Unless Watson gets knocked out early, I suspect OU won't look as awesome as they did against the row of second-and-third-string QB's they faced in their 'big' games...
I agree with this. This is the most complete team OU has faced this year.It is not fair to label Oklahoma State as not being a legitimate team but then to turn around and count UNC as being a legit team. UNC is not that good of a football team and has a much uglier loss than Ok. St. I'd take Oklahoma State over the Heels head-to-head.
If Oklahoma will be patient on offense and stick to running the ball they can win. clemson D is good but has depth issues and they gave up a lot of yards on the ground in the 2nd half of the season (142 to UNC, 181 to USC, 242 to Syracuse, 197 to FSU, 135 to NCSU, 159 to BC), and many of those to bad offensive teams (such as USC and BC and Syracuse).
IMO this is a tough game to pick. If OU can hang around and keep it close until clemson D wears out in 2nd half I think they win. If clemson jumps up early and OU panics then the tigers win.
No, I'm saying that when your entire season's reputation is based on games where the opponents' starting QBs were out the overall ranking is suspect.Are you saying when you beat a team that doesn't have it's starting QB - it's not as credible of a win?
Agreed. They were a solid team overall, but definitely not elite.I can see that, but I still don't think UNC belongs on the "legit team" list.
Slightly different from a team that doesn't have astarting QB! chomp chompAre you saying when you beat a team that doesn't have it's starting QB - it's not as credible of a win?
OK - an entire season but not just one game. I got it. :wink::wink::wink:No, I'm saying that when your entire season's reputation is based on games where the opponents' starting QBs were out the overall ranking is suspect.
Nice try, but Grier wouldn't have made a difference.
Thanks Coast...you got it!Slightly different from a team that doesn't have a starting QB! chomp chomp
Glad to see I'm not the only one off the reservation on this one. I think this is a very good OU team that will beat Clemson by double digits.I like the Sooners here by 13, say 41-28.
So shouldn't you go with Clemson since they give up less points a game?How well can one judge a teams Offense in what is thought to be a non-defensive league? - Oklahoma
How well can one judge a teams Defense in what is basically considered a 'WEAK' league? - Clemson
Most have heard the saying 'stats are for loser's' well here's some STATS...
I tend to go with a team that has shown the better 'D' throughout the season, especially their scoring 'D', there is a reason a team only gives up so many points, and it sure ain't luck!!!
I'll pick OU by 4pts. 27-23 - although neither team has looked very impressive all year...
I'll pick Bama by 8pts. 24-16, I don't think Sparty's luck will hold out, and i think A'Shawn and Reggie will be on a mission!
If Jake stays away from TO's the Tide should roll!
Do you remember the OU - UT game, Vol's that is?It is not fair to label Oklahoma State as not being a legitimate team but then to turn around and count UNC as being a legit team. UNC is not that good of a football team and has a much uglier loss than Ok. St. I'd take Oklahoma State over the Heels head-to-head.
If Oklahoma will be patient on offense and stick to running the ball they can win. clemson D is good but has depth issues and they gave up a lot of yards on the ground in the 2nd half of the season (142 to UNC, 181 to USC, 242 to Syracuse, 197 to FSU, 135 to NCSU, 159 to BC), and many of those to bad offensive teams (such as USC and BC and Syracuse).
IMO this is a tough game to pick. If OU can hang around and keep it close until clemson D wears out in 2nd half I think they win. If clemson jumps up early and OU panics then the tigers win.