Link: Barry Alvarez Gives Lame Reason as to Why SEC Teams Pay Assistants More than B1G
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I'm very surprised at the number of you who seem to be completely unaware of the real purpose of collegiate athletics. Using the rationale of only offering sports that generate a profit, you would soon have nothing but men's football and basketball. Isn't this exact argument what prompted the Supreme Court's Title IX decision?
Spoken like someone that is somewhat egocentric, a tad judgmental, and doesn't understand that collegiate athletics is a business.....and without the "business" part of the equation, there are no other sports, other than Football, Basketball and maybe Baseball/Softball in some places, and Gymnastics in the SEC.....
Back in the "good ole days" - it didn't cost much to field a team. You took an old school bus, put the kids on it, and drove to the game/match. You stayed in a $19/night hotel - and came back the next day....that world doesn't exist anymore.
College Athletics is not what it used to be......
You seemed to have personalized something that had nothing to do with you....that's too bad....otherwise, this was a pretty good thread.
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And don't think for one second that the rowers on the varisty women's team at Alabama don't know who buttered their bread- they do. And don't think they don't appreciate it either- I'm sure they do. They want Alabama football to be successful because they know that their sport (and probably every single other one at the university) not only benefits from football's success but depends on it. In the end though, they all represent the University of Alabama so they are all on the same team. ROLL TIDE
I agree in the wisdom, but that is the whole argument.
The link does not break anything down by sport. That would be interesting to determine whether or not his statement has actual merit or just legitimate reasoning.
You took a shot at a sport that I love and that has been a very important part of my life- so yeah, I take it very personally. If you'd said that about golf or gymnastics or some other sport, maybe someone else here would have been just as offended .
As for your comment about college athletics being a business; maybe for sports like football, basketball and a few others but for lots of other sports it's still much like 'the good ole days' you reference. Those athletes aren't in it for fame and fortune.
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I get that, and it does not preclude what is being discussed. If Wisconsin is going to fund other sports with the revenue from football, it is using money football has brought in. Simple as that. CBB's stated reason for going to Arkansas was assistant coach salary levels.
Plenty of sports used to be funded directly from booster support. Anytime a school choses to fund a sport it is a business decision as to where that funding comes from, and sometimes it is at the expense of other sports. As you said the title IX argument is the same thing. In fact IMO title IX forcing schools to fund programs (right or wrong) made some of this a fully business decision.
Did you say they have a Whiskey drinking competitive team to support? Who's the coach?
I have no idea what Barry Alvarez makes at Wisconsin, but I'm sure he does pretty well. The head coach is paid well too. Maybe they should pay the raise to keep their DC. My guess is money isn't the main reason Aranda went to LSU.
It's a matter of priorities for the school. We value football more than they do I guess. It works well for Alabama, maybe they should come off their wallet and pay their coaches more! RTR!
It's a matter of priorities for the school. We value football more than they do I guess. It works well for Alabama, maybe they should come off their wallet and pay their coaches more! RTR!
Alverez is just damage controlling with a non sequitur. He's an "oldhead" with a bad business sense.
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If I remember correctly, the inability to pay to keep good assistants was a big part of the reason Bielema left for Arkansas. He was tired of losing guys all the time.
Barry's reasoning would be more valid to me if the amount of revenue generated by both athletic departments was the same. Then, he could argue that dividing the same amount of revenue amongst more sports would reduce the amount available to spend on each sport. Based on the numbers above, I would say the reason that Wisky doesn't pay its coaches the same as Bama and other SEC schools is because they don't generate the same amount of revenue.
It would also be interesting to see how comparable the profit margins are to determine which school was more fiscally responsible.
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B1G: Be sure to send that memo to all of the public universities (such as OSU) whose existence is dependent upon the public endowment you refer to as a "handout". Then we can dispense with the argument about whether a varsity sports program should be profit centres because there won't be a university to administer the program anyway.
Correct me if I am wrong. But a couple of years ago, did not, as a direct result of Title IX, (and wait)' the NCAA champions in Women's Softball, Tennis, and Golf, from the University of Alabama? Didn't the Rise Center get a windfall from the FB teams earnings after beating Texas? FOOTBALL PAYS FOR IT ALl
. 20 years ago there were no rowing teams, softball fields, Yahtzee or chess tables sanctioned by the NCAA...okay, I pushed it there but blue font does take time off!
. 20 years ago there were no rowing teams, softball fields, Yahtzee or chess tables sanctioned by the NCAA...okay, I pushed it there but blue font does take time off!
I doubt it. Frankly, I think Power 5 conference public schools in some states are probably very reluctant to get into a football coaches salary arms race because of the potential political repercussions (there are probably more than a few states where the public might not be very supportive of football coaches being the top 10 highest paid public employees). Ironically, I've read that this was an issue when Skip Bertman tried to get Coach Saban a raise at LSU before he left for Miami.
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