2016 Election - Trump: How Did Trump Really Win the Presidency?

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Good point and well said, VJ.

I think he was overwhelmed by Trump's sturdy personality in the moment.
It's always easy to play Monday Morning Quarterback. With Trump's brashness there's no wonder what he'd have come back with. Cruz was probably wise to let it go at that point.
 

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I keep seeing poor old Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum on that second team. I swear I don't how those two are staying in.
 

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I've really come around on Trump. Not a fan of Cruz. Would still vote for Rubio if the election were held today, unless it looks like it's coming down to Trump or Cruz, in which case I will vote for Trump.
I was initially a Cruz fan when he was first elected as a senator until you pointed out his willingness to sell his soul to get elected. Don't pander. Mean what you say and say what you mean. I think Trump means everything he says. We need someone with a sack. That's been missing for 20 plus years.
 

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I've really come around on Trump. Not a fan of Cruz. Would still vote for Rubio if the election were held today, unless it looks like it's coming down to Trump or Cruz, in which case I will vote for Trump.

For me, it's a matter of insiders vs. outsiders.

Much of the country is tired of the politics getting in the way of the value system that made our country so great.

Trump has tapped into that frustration.

And that's the bottom line.

Sick of all the BS - we need someone who is a producer. Someone who wants America to win. We need a competitor. Someone who has experience in the real world.

Trump 2016.
 

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I was initially a Cruz fan when he was first elected as a senator until you pointed out his willingness to sell his soul to get elected. Don't pander. Mean what you say and say what you mean. I think Trump means everything he says. We need someone with a sack. That's been missing for 20 plus years.

Well said DBF.

I would love to see a Trump/Carson ticket. Can you imagine? Whoa!
 

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Well said DBF.

I would love to see a Trump/Carson ticket. Can you imagine? Whoa!
I don't think Carson is worth the effort. I still like New Mexico's governor. Hispanic female and she's fiery like The Donald. That could be an interesting ticket.
 

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Here's the thing about insiders. I get why people don't like them, but I also want somebody who has some idea how to do the job. Trump's experience with business will help him, but unless you've lived and worked in Washington, it's hard to wrap your head around how messed up it is. One of Obama's biggest problems--other than that he's a socialist--is that he had no idea what he was doing. Sometimes, you want a politician.
I get there's some give and take. That's part of the game. I know Trump is used to wheeling and dealing as well with a lot of these politicians. I'm sure he's greased some palms through political donations and attended fund raiser events. He's a colorful character to say the least. So, from that stand point, I don't doubt he would be able to negotiate with others to get things done.

I truly want some one who reigns in spending, pays down our national debt and plans for the future by funding social security and medicare since they are promised to those who contribute. We need a leader and we've been without one for a very long time. Even if there's a little dog and pony show (like Trump) we need some effective change to right the ship, if that's even possible at this point.
 

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Here's the thing about insiders. I get why people don't like them, but I also want somebody who has some idea how to do the job. Trump's experience with business will help him, but unless you've lived and worked in Washington, it's hard to wrap your head around how messed up it is. One of Obama's biggest problems--other than that he's a socialist--is that he had no idea what he was doing. Sometimes, you want a politician.
In particular, what about living and working in Washington is so different than working in the real estate business?

And why would that be a handicap for someone like Trump?

You also have to take into consideration - Trump will be the top dog. Sure I understand he has to work with congress, but in so many other important aspects as the top dog he can bring in the right people to get the job done.

I'm practically salivating at the notion of hearing him say "You're fired!" to some of the incompetents we have in Washington.
 

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Here's the thing about insiders. I get why people don't like them, but I also want somebody who has some idea how to do the job. Trump's experience with business will help him, but unless you've lived and worked in Washington, it's hard to wrap your head around how messed up it is. One of Obama's biggest problems--other than that he's a socialist--is that he had no idea what he was doing. Sometimes, you want a politician.
If you want to know one former Republican voter's reason for despising the Republican establishment is their insistence on saying one thing when running, then doing another once they get back to the cesspool on the Potomac. Don't tell me you're going to refuse to raise the debt ceiling while you are running and then once elected and do what you swore not to do. I would have more respect for if Republicans like Mitch McConnell would just say, "I'm a spineless weasel who will do anything to keep my phony baloney job. Whenever the Democrats want to further damage the United States, I'm going to help them if it is expedient for my elective career."
 

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Here's the thing about insiders. I get why people don't like them, but I also want somebody who has some idea how to do the job. Trump's experience with business will help him, but unless you've lived and worked in Washington, it's hard to wrap your head around how messed up it is. One of Obama's biggest problems--other than that he's a socialist--is that he had no idea what he was doing. Sometimes, you want a politician.
Not a Trump supporter but what you describe is exactly what needs to be changed, it is extremely corrupt there and we are sick of it. Too many politicians have sold out the American people for their own desires. To allow this to continue is denying the rule of law to ordinary citizens while those who know how to make it work as it is now steal to enrich themselves. It is national suicide.

Edited to add: If, after all these year, you believe Obama doesn't know exactly what he is doing you have missed his repeated efforts to transform the nation. He doesn't care about the fallout, that's a perk for him. He wants his agenda completed and he is doing a darn good job with the lack of opposition in the wimpy, lying GOP.
 
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Not a Trump supporter but what you describe is exactly what needs to be changed, it is extremely corrupt there and we are sick of it. Too many politicians have sold out the American people for their own desires. To allow this to continue is denying the rule of law to ordinary citizens while those who know how to make it work as it is now so they can destroy freedom and steal to enrich themselves is national suicide.
Usually a person with no experience in something (Trump and Carson in this particular case) fail because they have no clue what they're doing. Talk about DC being corrupt. Do you not think someone with no experience and no idea how it works is somehow less of a target? If anything, they're more gullible and more of a target to be bought.
 

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Usually a person with no experience in something (Trump and Carson in this particular case) fail because they have no clue what they're doing. Talk about DC being corrupt. Do you not think someone with no experience and no idea how it works is somehow less of a target? If anything, they're more gullible and more of a target to be bought.
Good points and why I support Cruz. Trump talks a good game but doesn't know or doesn't care how The Constitution says it must work. That is much like Obama and not what will restore our Republic. He has admitted to buying politicians himself, saying that is how it works.
Knowing how things work without following the Constitution and the backbone to stand on principles is useless too. Another reason I support Cruz.
 
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