To be clear, it's not Christians who are responsible for violent acts against innocent civilians just because they aren't Muslims.No, that is not all he's done. And just to be clear, Trump has not suggested that we close the borders specifically to Syrian refugees (which would be analogous to what Carter did with Iran). Instead, he has actually proposed closing the borders to any person belonging to a specific and major world religion.
In addition, he's repeatedly pushed the (debunked) notion that thousands of Muslims cheered when the WTC buildings collapsed. He stated that he'd support registering all Muslim citizens in a federal database. He has proposed surveillance of mosques and even shutting down certain Muslim places of worship.
Now, if I replace "Muslim" with "Christian," would you consider those ideas to be hateful?
So do you support what Trump has proposed regarding Muslim-Americans, especially with regards to curtailing civil liberties? And if we were to rewind time 50 years, back to when the KKK was committing cruelties against innocents, should Christians have been treated the same?To be clear, it's not Christians who are responsible for violent acts against innocent civilians just because they aren't Muslims.
At the present, Muslims, at least extremists, are killing and maiming innocent civilians for no other reasons than because they don't share the same 'religious' convictions as themselves.
But if it were the other way around, then yes, those acts would be met with the same distrusting fervor as are Muslims today.
Instead of having to say what or who I may have supported way back when I was a teenager, let me turn this around. So do support the Muslims' attack on innocent civilians? If so why, and if not, what would you propose we do about it?So do you support what Trump has proposed regarding Muslim-Americans, especially with regards to curtailing civil liberties? And if we were to rewind time 50 years, back to when the KKK was committing cruelties against innocents, should Christians have been treated the same?
Nice dodge.Instead of having to say what or who I may have supported way back when I was a teenager, let me turn this around. So do support the Muslims' attack on innocent civilians? If so why, and if not, what would you propose we do about it?
Trump/Palin 2016?Per ABC News, Sarah Palin endorses Donald Trump.
Per ABC News, Sarah Palin endorses Donald Trump.
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I also don't assume that every hijab I see when walking down the street is shrouding the face of a murderer.
Well, we did set a precedent with the Japanese.So do you support what Trump has proposed regarding Muslim-Americans, especially with regards to curtailing civil liberties? And if we were to rewind time 50 years, back to when the KKK was committing cruelties against innocents, should Christians have been treated the same?
I never mind opinions.Charmin - if you don't mind - my opinion on the whole situation - could be resolved with a good sales manager at the white house.
When is the last time you saw a good Muslim included in a white house presser?
Why would they do that?
They would do that to help anti-Muslim Americans see that we are loaded in our country with good Muslim people who would lay THEIR life down for their fellow countryman.
For example one of the just released from Iran Americans is a US Marine - and happens to be a Muslim. For those who are "haters"....if that doesn't give one pause - not sure what would.
If I were the sale manager at the white house I would make sure we had a Muslim featured in the news every day...one who is a patriot.
They are out there....somewhere......we just don't see them. Instead the media loves to show the bad ones. Your fight is with the media and the white house more than with any of us.
Just an opinion....YMMV.
And German- and Italian-Americans too. History doesn't remember that very fondly.Well, we did set a precedent with the Japanese.
Nevertheless, we saved the world.And German- and Italian-Americans too. History doesn't remember that very fondly.
I never mind opinions.
First off, I'm not the one fighting anyone. I'd posit that it's Trump, a few other Republicans, and a subset of their supporters who are starting a fight.
I think your idea is a good one. There have actually been a number of Muslim soldiers who have stood up against Trump's remarks on social media. I doubt that makes it to Fox News, though.
Nice dodge.
The wording of your posts strikes this issue at the heart. In your previous post, you wrote "Muslims, at least extremists, are killing... innocent civilians." The phrasing implies that non-extremist Muslims might also be murdering innocents, which is absurd. I'd assumed it was just unfortunate and unintended syntax, but now you ask if I support "the Muslims' attackon innocent." It seems very much like you're condemning an entire religion -- 1.5 BILLION people -- for the actions of the radicalized minority.
So to answer your question: no one here supports the actions of extremist Muslim terrorists. But just like I don't ascribe the actions of murderous Christian gangs in central Africa to my Christian neighbors here in America, I also don't assume that every hijab I see when walking down the street is shrouding the face of a murderer.
did bible spice say drill baby drill?Letting Palin speak on behalf of Trump is the first major mistake he has made, IMHO.
I don't this helping him....yikes!
"Look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."I wasn't dodging anything. In fact, I simply reversed your own dodge (asking me if I would have supported the KKK 50 years ago) and returned to the subject a hand.
I don't, and don't think anyone here does, assume that any and every person we see wearing a hijab and walking down the street is a murderer. However it seems that whenever we see or hear of a suicide (homicide) bomber killing and maiming dozens of innocent people, an Islamic group takes responsibility for it.
After a while, and it's been a lot more than just ''a while'' we really don't have to wait. We already know who's behind it. It only stands to reason that we quit standing around waiting to be a target and take the offense. What we do towards that goal is less important than right or wrong, we must do something.
If I might use a football analogy, we start the game, then make adjustments as the game progress. But you can never win the game if you don't let your offense take the field.