Link: Dantonio's Cotton Bowl Closure

Sabanizer · Jan 20, 2016

Gr8hope said:
Heh heh!

That might be what's left when he leaves a program.

rgw · Jan 20, 2016

I think the next two years will be telling for Urban Meyer. He's proven that he can build a program up but he's never been in the maintain-mode situation. He left BGSU for Utah when BGSU got rolling. He left Utah for Florida when Utah got rolling. He left Florida after having it all fall apart around him. There's just very little track record there for what a long-standing Meyer program will look like...and the one data point isn't positive. They're having their first real big turnover of his Buckeye tenure next season.

To be fair, people were questioning Saban's staying-power after 2010 too. Those people would quickly point out that he was a flighty coach who either left right when they were at their peak (Michigan State) or just after they had a bump in the road (LSU). The run since 2010 has shown that he does have the ability to repeatedly mold a team into an elite group, so most people just went to plan B (that he would be leaving Alabama soon). They've struck out on both...

So I guess I'm saying I'm not going to just assume Meyer can't maintain...but we will know in the next two years.

Alasippi · Jan 20, 2016

rgw said:
I think the next two years will be telling for Urban Meyer. He's proven that he can build a program up but he's never been in the maintain-mode situation. He left BGSU for Utah when BGSU got rolling. He left Utah for Florida when Utah got rolling. He left Florida after having it all fall apart around him. There's just very little track record there for what a long-standing Meyer program will look like...and the one data point isn't positive. They're having their first real big turnover of his Buckeye tenure next season.

To be fair, people were questioning Saban's staying-power after 2010 too. Those people would quickly point out that he was a flighty coach who either left right when they were at their peak (Michigan State) or just after they had a bump in the road (LSU). The run since 2010 has shown that he does have the ability to repeatedly mold a team into an elite group, so most people just went to plan B (that he would be leaving Alabama soon). They've struck out on both...

So I guess I'm saying I'm not going to just assume Meyer can't maintain...but we will know in the next two years.

He's the second best coach in America in my mind. If he stays at Ohio State, where he can totally dominate the conference, there's no telling how many national titles he can win.
The guy's a great football coach.

TideFan in AU · Jan 20, 2016

Alasippi said:
He's the second best coach in America in my mind. If he stays at Ohio State, where he can totally dominate the conference, there's no telling how many national titles he can win.
The guy's a great football coach.

He hasn't dominated Dantonio, and I don't think he'll dominate Harbaugh. Meyer is 46-2 against everyone else in the conference, and 2-2 against Dantonio. Dantonio knocked Meyer out of NC contention in '13 and '15.

He's a great football coach, but he hasn't proved he can a maintain a great problem, so let's wait and see how he does when his success forces the conference to get better overall.

bamachile · Jan 20, 2016

Mystical said:
This is why he is a great coach. These types of losses should eat at you. It will make him better.

Woody Hayes thought these kind of losses cleansed the soul. Glad we could help.

theballguy · Jan 20, 2016

Man, when you get processed by Bama it can be a sobering thing. He's taking it way too hard. Dantonio and his staff need to sign up for a course with CNS, CKS (in Athens) and CLK this summer.

TideFan in AU · Jan 20, 2016

It's hard to find any of those MSU fans that swore up and down that we were scared to play them in the home and home series for 2016 and 2017 that was cancelled.

I bet they are OK with that now!

deliveryman35 · Jan 20, 2016

Urban has to go to Norman, Oklahoma in September, next to our game with SC that's the most intriguing regular season matchup to me from a national perspective in 2016.

Bama Reb · Jan 21, 2016

theballguy said:
Man, when you get processed by Bama it can be a sobering thing. He's taking it way too hard. Dantonio and his staff need to sign up for a course with CNS, CKS (in Athens) and CLK this summer.

There are so many teams that have been Processed by Bama, they need to start a support group just for them. :biggrin:

Crimson1967 · Jan 21, 2016

bamachile said:
Woody Hayes thought these kind of losses cleansed the soul. Glad we could help.

Hope he doesn't punch a player like Woody did a couple years after we processed him.

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