NCAA to formally charge Ole Miss with rules violations (Freeze has resigned)

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Provide scholarships, free room and board, all the athletic gear and more that they ever need, the best food and medical attention on their campuses, incredible life opportunities in education and athletics,...
The NCAA does none of that - all of that existed long before the NCAA.

Remember your love for the NCAA the next time they come knocking on Alabama's door.
 

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Provide scholarships, free room and board, all the athletic gear and more that they ever need, the best food and medical attention on their campuses, incredible life opportunities in education and athletics,...


Is your last name O'Bannon because you sure sound butthurt, I guess because players aren't making high five or six figures a year just to suffer through a scholarship and playing football at major universities
I don't know where you think the NCAA is involved in that equation, but tuition money, student activity fees, and boosters from the universities pay for those things
 

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NCAA is a restrictive force on what student-athletes can be afforded. They're great for making sure a lot of schools can compete, they're not a positive force for top-level athletes.
 

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I don't know where you think the NCAA is involved in that equation, but tuition money, student activity fees, and boosters from the universities pay for those things
Universities offer athletic scholarships to compete within ncaa guidelines. For the life of me I cannot understand those who think College Football should be an nfl jr league.

If athletes are not happy with their plight, they are FREE to not take part. See how that works?

The NCAA, despite faults, provides opportunity. But that is mot enough for many in our increasingly lazy and entitled society. Would love to see these nancy boys handle the draft era
 

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Ole miss in trouble with ncaa,,,,,I'm shocked!!
 

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The NCAA does none of that - all of that existed long before the NCAA.

Remember your love for the NCAA the next time they come knocking on Alabama's door.
You do know the ncaa was founded in 1906??
 

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For you people that have twitter, is the ole miss situation being discussed among the recruits?
 

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The reason the Newton case stumped the NCAA was not the deniability but the lack of even a faint scent on the the money source.
I believe it came down to whether Scam knew or not (hence the "I didn't know" press conference).
It was either admitted by his old man or they found proof he got the money - otherwise Scam never had to say a word.
 

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So now I'm guessing Freeze can't get in anyone's face when they accuse Ol Spit of cheating and say "prove it!". Looks like the NCAA has...
 

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Universities offer athletic scholarships to compete within ncaa guidelines. For the life of me I cannot understand those who think College Football should be an nfl jr league.

If athletes are not happy with their plight, they are FREE to not take part. See how that works?

The NCAA, despite faults, provides opportunity. But that is mot enough for many in our increasingly lazy and entitled society. Would love to see these nancy boys handle the draft era
People disagree with you and you act like a 3 year old. Not sure how you have survived on this board.
 

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Hey, lets not go down a bad path here.
 

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B1G, This subject is obviously one you feel strongly about so I have a question. If the NCAA is dissolved, who would police the universities? You can't have the inmates running the asylum and the individual leagues have a conflict of interest.
 

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B1G, This subject is obviously one you feel strongly about so I have a question. If the NCAA is dissolved, who would police the universities? You can't have the inmates running the asylum and the individual leagues have a conflict of interest.
Why do they need to be "policed"? Why can't Alabama sign 150 athletes to scholarships if they have that many interested? Why can't boosters give players money? Seriously, who is hurt here?

Those rules were put in place to help smaller schools compete. I am not interested in socialism anywhere in my life.
 

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I normally have alot of respect for your comments- but this one completely makes me question my prior judgement. "Why can't boosters give players money?" Really?
Why do they need to be "policed"? Why can't Alabama sign 150 athletes to scholarships if they have that many interested? Why can't boosters give players money? Seriously, who is hurt here?

Those rules were put in place to help smaller schools compete. I am not interested in socialism anywhere in my life.
 

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The booster issue is really the symptom of a larger problem: some players are worth more than others and this system doesn't operate like a true open marketplace. When the money flowing through the system was much smaller before the cable television explosion, I don't think the issue was as important. When this became a billion-dollar business that makes a lot of people rich (even beyond the schools), I think the market issue has become more magnified.
 
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I normally have alot of respect for your comments- but this one completely makes me question my prior judgement. "Why can't boosters give players money?" Really?
You guys see this through the lens of the existing rules, not what is right or wrong. Sure, within the existing rules it is cheating, but if it was so wrong, I mean morally wrong, why is every single school doing it?

Players have been getting paid for as long as sports has existed. The NCAA just forced it underground. When those rules weren't enough, they imposed scholarship limits. Why? Not because it was wrong that the best teams got the best players. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing immoral about it. But it meant that college football was ruled by a dozen teams because all of the kids wanted to play for those schools - those coaches.

It wasn't about getting rich - the NFL just didn't pay that much money back then. But it was about escaping poverty. A college degree at one of those schools was a life changing event for those players - even if they were one of a class of 50 signees and never saw the field.

Fewer athletes play FBS college football because of the NCAA. Fewer athletes get full ride scholarships because of the NCAA. All in the name of "parity".

So, if you think that paying a kid a few thousand dollars is the problem, and that the NCAA is the solution, you are right - I'm not the guy that you want to listen to.
 

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You guys see this through the lens of the existing rules, not what is right or wrong. Sure, within the existing rules it is cheating, but if it was so wrong, I mean morally wrong, why is every single school doing it?

Players have been getting paid for as long as sports has existed. The NCAA just forced it underground. When those rules weren't enough, they imposed scholarship limits. Why? Not because it was wrong that the best teams got the best players. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing immoral about it. But it meant that college football was ruled by a dozen teams because all of the kids wanted to play for those schools - those coaches.

It wasn't about getting rich - the NFL just didn't pay that much money back then. But it was about escaping poverty. A college degree at one of those schools was a life changing event for those players - even if they were one of a class of 50 signees and never saw the field.

Fewer athletes play FBS college football because of the NCAA. Fewer athletes get full ride scholarships because of the NCAA. All in the name of "parity".

So, if you think that paying a kid a few thousand dollars is the problem, and that the NCAA is the solution, you are right - I'm not the guy that you want to listen to.
Your definition of policing gets too close to anarchy and we all know that won't work. The key is to get the NCAA to re-write the rules based on the current conditions of big league college football. Limits still have to be maintained.
 

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Why do they need to be "policed"? Why can't Alabama sign 150 athletes to scholarships if they have that many interested? Why can't boosters give players money? Seriously, who is hurt here?

Those rules were put in place to help smaller schools compete. I am not interested in socialism anywhere in my life.
It's called parity..The smaller schools wouldn't be able to match-up with the big schools that has bigger budgets like Bama & Ohio St..I don't like the NCAA, but, college football needs the NCAA to keep the playing field at a more competitive level for all the teams involved..
 

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Your definition of policing gets too close to anarchy and we all know that won't work. The key is to get the NCAA to re-write the rules based on the current conditions of big league college football. Limits still have to be maintained.
I feel the same way. The NCAA is a needed regulatory body but the way top-level college football has grown since the 1980s requires a rethinking of the existing structures.
 
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