So you didn't read this thread?
Guess not, as well as you did. Jeez lighten up
So you didn't read this thread?
I was just trying to have some fun with you. Jeez lighten up.Guess not, as well as you did. Jeez lighten up
Who would possibly write that statement in a speech in an attempt to defend a school's alleged sexual assault problems?It (bad decisions/mistakes) can't impact the lives of the people you hurt.
Like they wanna get raped?I know it is bad, But some of the problem is the way the young woman on campus portray themselves.
I would only say this: the player who is claiming to have gotten beat up for defending the girls....if a NEWSPAPER is asking 'did they beat you up?', I may be inclined to say 'no.'Consider the possibility that Butch Jones didn't say this. In the original articles and court filings it was said that other TN players called the TN player who helped the girl a traitor - no mention of Jones. The statements and court filings are later amended to add Jones. Why? The easy answer - because saying that Jones said this makes it into an institutional problem. It ups the ante considerably.
Now Jones has to prove that he didn't say it. How can he do that?
If I were Butch Jones, and I did not say this, I would be looking for a way to leave TN while helping the victims. I would be looking to clear my name and distance myself from this school. My career as a head coach at TN would drop to the bottom of my list of priorities.
I don't know what role Jones played in all of this. At best he was guilty of not knowing what he should have known. But I am not taking it for granted that he said this because it is just too convenient and represents a change in the story of the accusers.
My point - his original story was that PLAYERS called him a traitor. He has changed that story and now says that his coach called him a traitor. I have no idea which version is true - I just know that he told 2 versions of the story.I would only say this: the player who is claiming to have gotten beat up for defending the girls....if a NEWSPAPER is asking 'did they beat you up?', I may be inclined to say 'no.'
While I realize people have lied on sworn affidavits, this guy comes from a good family and a good parental structure. It's still possible, but I'm thinking he understands what lying under oath can get you.
Maybe....
Yes, that statement is burned into my mind. It took a while, but Fulmer finally got what was coming to him. Now days, he probably has nothing to do, except eating donuts."We're gonna put Alabama football out of business." - Phil Fulmer
Zero empathy."We're gonna put Alabama football out of business." - Phil Fulmer
just a reminder for anyone who might feel an ounce of sympathy for Tennessee.
Before the Fulmer regime I viewed UT as a rivalry that I respected. We have had some really classic games. Now, I really have no empathy for anyone involved with that program. It wouldn't bother me one bit to never play them again. I really do believe that they really enjoyed what they tried to accomplish to shut Alabama football down. For that reason alone I will never give UT the benefit of the doubt. Nuke em.Yes, that statement is burned into my mind. It took a while, but Fulmer finally got what was coming to him. Now days, he probably has nothing to do, except eating donuts.
Exactly..That's why it makes their 10yr slide into mediocrity all that more enjoyable to watch..The sold their souls to the devil trying to bring get our football program shut down & it literally wouldn't hurt my feelings one iota should the NCAA ever shut vols football down..Should it ever happen it would be well earned by the viles..Before the Fulmer regime I viewed UT as a rivalry that I respected. We have had some really classic games. Now, I really have no empathy for anyone involved with that program. It wouldn't bother me one bit to never play them again. I really do believe that they really enjoyed what they tried to accomplish to shut Alabama football down. For that reason alone I will never give UT the benefit of the doubt. Nuke em.
I totally agree, with tennstud and all his money and influence, and we had Kramer as the SEC comm. I have total compassion for the women who were harmed but UT should get what Penn State did if all of this is true.Before the Fulmer regime I viewed UT as a rivalry that I respected. We have had some really classic games. Now, I really have no empathy for anyone involved with that program. It wouldn't bother me one bit to never play them again. I really do believe that they really enjoyed what they tried to accomplish to shut Alabama football down. For that reason alone I will never give UT the benefit of the doubt. Nuke em.
Has he told 2 versions of the story? I haven't read any interviews from him. The only time I've seen him mentioned being called a traitor, he was referring to Butch Jones.My point - his original story was that PLAYERS called him a traitor. He has changed that story and now says that his coach called him a traitor. I have no idea which version is true - I just know that he told 2 versions of the story.
I haven't read where he said players called him a traitor.Has he told 2 versions of the story? I haven't read any interviews from him. The only time I've seen him mentioned being called a traitor, he was referring to Butch Jones.
I read an article a few weeks ago where it was mentioned the players came after him, but there were no interviews or quotes from Bowles himself. Then the article dropped a few days ago where he was actually quoted from a sworn affidavit that Butch Jones called him a traitor.
Am I missing something?
If Jones left now on his own after that interview with the rest of the head coaches I would be VERY surprised. He appears to have made his bed next to that hound.If all this was happening before Butch Jones took the Tn. job, he should have known something was awry. Possibly he did know but hoped nothing would be brought to light about it during his watch. Now, Butch is up to his behind in alligators and it's too late to start draining the swamp. (No Fl. Gator pun intended. Run Butch Run.
I haven't seen this where he changed the story either. Do you have a link?My point - his original story was that PLAYERS called him a traitor. He has changed that story and now says that his coach called him a traitor. I have no idea which version is true - I just know that he told 2 versions of the story.