If Michael Bloomberg decides to mount a presidential campaign, he could potentially siphon off enough electoral votes to keep any major candidate from getting to 270. IF that were to happen, its my understanding that the election would be thrown to the CURRENT house of representatives which, with 33 republican state delegations to 14 for the dems(three states have split delegations), would then choose the next POTUS, who would invariably choose the republican nominee. I'm not a constitutional expert, but some of you are and I was wanting to verify whether I am correct about this or not.
Bloomberg Candidacy--Nightmare Scenario for Dems?
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The Dems already have their nightmare scenario. It's called either Dem. Presidential Nominee- Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders running after the most divisive president in American history. Bloomberg could make the loss even worse than it already will be.
If Bloomberg announces, be prepared for two things 1) Biden is absolutely forced to run by established democrats and 2) a brokered convention
Bloomberg's coming will mean that Hillary is an unelectable candidate and it would force the dems to either hit the reset button on candidates or gamble that sanders can steal ny, nj, and Massachusetts from both trump and Bloomberg. I wager that it's the former rather than the latter at the state of things.
Bloomberg's coming will mean that Hillary is an unelectable candidate and it would force the dems to either hit the reset button on candidates or gamble that sanders can steal ny, nj, and Massachusetts from both trump and Bloomberg. I wager that it's the former rather than the latter at the state of things.
what, the ussc is going to throw the election again if bloomberg gets in
the point was he's not going to get any electoral votes. i have no idea how a bloomberg candidacy will be received, my guess is, not great as you will now have two old white new york billionaires in the race telling you how awesome they are and that they and they alone are the ones that can fix what's ailing us. i really don't see where is is filling some gap other than his ego and i don't see him having much appeal outside of the northeast.
BiB in the other thread said that Bloomberg would take votes from the dems in the NE states allowing trump upset victories in primary democrat states. I use trump because Bloomberg said if sanders v trump looks inevitable he would run.what, the ussc is going to throw the election again if bloomberg gets in
the point was he's not going to get any electoral votes. i have no idea how a bloomberg candidacy will be received, my guess is, not great as you will now have two old white new york billionaires in the race telling you how awesome they are and that they and they alone are the ones that can fix what's ailing us. i really don't see where is is filling some gap other than his ego and i don't see him having much appeal outside of the northeast.
USSC didn't throw anything and frankly their involvement was really never needed. Once the Florida results were certified, signed off on by Jeb! Bush, and then received by the archivist of the US, W was ALWAYS under any circumstances going to be POTUS on Jan 20, 2001.what, the ussc is going to throw the election again if bloomberg gets in
the point was he's not going to get any electoral votes. i have no idea how a bloomberg candidacy will be received, my guess is, not great as you will now have two old white new york billionaires in the race telling you how awesome they are and that they and they alone are the ones that can fix what's ailing us. i really don't see where is is filling some gap other than his ego and i don't see him having much appeal outside of the northeast.
Sorry didn't get...my bad.oh good lord, it was a joke. hence the
I actually think Bloomberg might have some appeal in some blue states. I dont' see him winning any red ones, though.
Actually certified by FL Sec. of State Katherine Harris. A full review of the ballots by the left leaning Palm Beach Post and Fort Lauderdale Sun Sentinel determined that GWB had the votes to win. But you can't tell Democrats that.
To me, this is also the only possible path to the presidency for Ted Cruz--and let their be no question he is THE biggest nightmare for dems.
All Bloomberg would have to do to tip the election is win enough votes in New York that the Republican carries the state. That alone would be almost enough by itself to say nothing of other states where he might cost her.
The Roosevelt-Taft split elected Wilson in 1912.
The third party candidacy of George Wallace nearly threw the 1968 election into the House (Nixon only carried 301 EVs).
John Anderson didn't carry a single state in 1980, but there's NO DOUBT his liberal independent candidacy put Massachusetts in Reagan's column. Reagan beat Carter by less than 5,000 votes in that bastion of McGovernism while Anderson was carrying 382,000 votes. Anderson also likely cost Carter New York and Maine. That's 59 EVs, a swing of 118.
And a coherent argument can be made that Perot cost Bush OR cost Clinton in 1992.
And Nader in 2000 in Florida no doubt.
Given three options, I simply don't see this country choosing a socialist--one admitted in Sanders and Hillary being the other in the closet-- as president. I could see Bloomberg appealing to many dems and possibly some liberal republicans in the NE that might bail on Trump. He might even be able to carry NY. I don't see any scenario where his candidacy would benefit the democrat party.
If he wins ny then the dems are stupid for either not supporting him or forcing Biden to run.
Only if the dems don't bail on the current two for someone like Biden or a big name moderate. If that happens then Cruz would be toast. Remember the establishment doesn't like Cruz but would back him against liberal extremes like sanders and Hillary, but would most likely not as much if a moderate or a Biden type were the democrat nominee.
I don't think Cruz would win in a two-way race against any of the current candidates--Sanders included. He's simply too far to the right and doesn't have enough support in the right demographics, and doubtful he would turn any blue states red. The only way I see him with a path to victory is if a Bloomberg enters and splinters the electoral vote.
As far as Hillary goes, one think I think most reasonable people of all political stripes can agree on--the woman is simply not likeable.
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I don't see Bloomberg getting in the race at this stage of the game. The dems have already had debates, Iowa has already had it's caucus and NH primaries were yesterday. I don't know how much money he has or how much PAC support he would have at this stage. It takes a lot of time for a Presidential candidate to mount a substantial campaign and I don't think he even has time to get onto all the ballots, let alone build and man the campaign offices in all the remaining states. Iow, too much water has run under the bridge for him to throw his hat into the ring now.
He's been talking about it a lot lately, of course that may all be self-serving bluster. My guess is though if he wanted to, though, he could do it. Building an organization and getting on the ballot would be the biggest things, and he's got plenty of money(think 3-4 times what Trump has, from what I've read) to do it. I think I read that to get your name on a lot of the ballots a decision would have to be made no later than March.
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