Democrats are in denial. Their party is actually in deep trouble.

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http://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9565119/democrats-in-deep-trouble

The worst part of the problem for the Democratic Party is in races that are, collectively, the most important: state government.

Elections for state legislature rarely make the national news, but they are the fundamental building blocks of American politics. Since they run the redistricting process for the US House of Representatives and for themselves, they are where the greatest level of electoral entrenchment is possible.

And in the wake of the 2014 midterms, Republicans have overwhelming dominance of America's state legislatures.

In what Democrats should take as a further bleak sign, four of the 11 states where they control both houses of the state legislature — Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Illinois — have a Republican governor. This leaves just seven states under unified Democratic Party control.
Despite what the media would have you believe, the Republicans have their collective feet on the Democrats throats - there's virtually zero chance the D's can take congress back in the upcoming election.
 

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Jon

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A different group? Or where it came from to begin with?
pretty sure i'm not getting anything more back no matter who the party

The Republicans are just as bad about corporate welfare as the Dems are on individual. In case you haven't noticed the last few Republican administrations didn't exactly cut back on spending
 

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pretty sure i'm not getting anything more back no matter who the party

The Republicans are just as bad about corporate welfare as the Dems are on individual. In case you haven't noticed the last few Republican administrations didn't exactly cut back on spending
You probably call renewable/green energy welfare "investments" but conveniently call investments in other jobs-creating corporations "welfare".
 

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pretty sure i'm not getting anything more back no matter who the party

The Republicans are just as bad about corporate welfare as the Dems are on individual. In case you haven't noticed the last few Republican administrations didn't exactly cut back on spending
Yup, one bows to the Chamber of commerce the other to alternative fuels and both screw over the American workers in favor of illegal immigrants for cheap labor. Truth is we need a "W" label to replace the traditional "R" and "D" on many of these whankers.


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Nothing is free. What one is given is taken from another's hard work.
Agreed. The problem is that the significant majority of the population are net receivers of government largesse. Their understanding of economics just isn't sufficient to understand that nothing is free, and the fact that they receive so much, yet pay little or nothing in the way of taxes, makes it in their economic interest to put their fingers in their ears and hum.

They're told that the evil rich will and should pay for it all, so often for so long, that they sincerely believe it.

In short, they've figured out that they can vote themselves into the Treasury, and have done so with a vengeance.

Yeah, it's short term thinking. But when did any of these guys think long-term anyway?
 

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You probably call renewable/green energy welfare "investments" but conveniently call investments in other jobs-creating corporations "welfare".
I actually don't

but how about you point to all the jobs created by corn subsidies? from that liberal rag the national review

Last month, when the conservative Republican Study Committee released its plan for $2.5 trillion in budget cuts over the next ten years, one enormous item of wasteful government spending was conspicuously missing — farm subsidies. Perhaps that reflects the fact that 24 of the RSC’s 165 members sit on the House Agriculture Committee, the notorious overseer of farm-welfare programs. Total direct government farm payments to the districts of those 24 representatives alone costs taxpayers more than $1 billion per year. Numerous other RSC members hail from farm states, and therefore have a vested interest in protecting payments to their constituents. For example, RSC chairman Rep. Jim Jordan is not a member of the Agriculture Committee but represents an Ohio district that receives $30 million in direct payments annually. We are also seeing the usual quadrennial pilgrimage of supposedly fiscally conservative Republican presidential candidates to Iowa, where they swear eternal fealty to farm subsidies generally, but, even worse, to ethanol subsidies in particular. Perhaps the most revolting example of this spectacle was former House speaker Newt Gingrich’s claim that opposition to ethanol subsidies and mandates stems from “big city” folks who just don’t like farmers.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/259294/republicans-are-weak-farm-subsidies-michael-tanner

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/259294/republicans-are-weak-farm-subsidies-michael-tanner
 

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I'm not intelligent enough to determine whether or not the Democrats are in big trouble; I DO know that the chanting of the inevitable demise of the Republican Party is widely overstated. Despite what you hear on TV, the Republican Party is the MAJORITY PARTY in the USA. The Republicans control BOTH houses in THIRTY states. Another eight are split, leaving the Democrats controlling 11 (Nebraska's is unicameral and doesn't count).

And they control 31 governorships.

They control both houses of the US Congress.


Literally the ONLY thing they don't control is the White House.


But don't expect Rachel Madcow or any other leftist to cite those points, either. For a party on the brink of death, they sure seem to win a lot of elections to me. In fact, look at this quote:

"Until the GOP held both houses of Congress, and the presidency, and a majority of governosrhips and state legislatures, it could not lay claim to status as the majority party." (Jack Germond and Jules Witcover, "Whose Broad Stripes and Bright Stars," 462).

It also puts the lie to the notion that the GOP is 'the party of old white men' as if those alone sustain it. That's not to say the GOP does not have a REAL problem at the Presidential level - no Republican since Bush 41 in 1988 has won anything resembling a mandate from the voters and a lot of pundits would say that neither that nor Reagan's 1984 win constituted a mandate given that the GOP lost Senate seats both time and House seats in 1988.

I won't suggest that we have 'good party, bad party' here because it's becoming more difficult to tell the two apart except for a few extreme issues like abortion and gay rights and the death penalty.
 

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