Short Memories and Ole Miss Recruiting

OBMS

1st Team
Jan 9, 2011
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Time Line----September 2012
Ole Miss fires its new women's basketball coach and two new assistants for academic fraud. It also rescinds the scholarships of two Junior College players who are already in enrolled in school.

A new football player, a walk-on from Huffman, Alabama, Carlos Davis, starts in September and is self reported after the season over his ACT score. He was being investigated by the NCAA and the Clearing House as he enrolled as a walk-on because of a ten point swing in English on his ACT score. He participated in 6 games as a true freshman walk-on in 2012. Because he was a walk-on, Ole Miss was not held accountable for knowing about the problems---Davis was "just" a walk-on. Do any of you remember Davis or his recruitment? I just can't imagine walking on and paying my own way, out of state, if I was as good as Davis seems to be. Or maybe everyone except David Saunders knew he couldn't get in school.

After the firing of the women's basketball coaches, Ole Miss self reports Davis's academic fraud. Still a debate over whether the women's basketball was a self report or the NCAA had been watching the players in question for two years and Ole Miss found Davis during their review.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...e-player-carlos-davis-act-scores-derrick-rose

It was him----not us.

“The University respectfully submits that this occurrence was isolated and inadvertent, did not result in any recruiting or competitive advantage and is not indicative of any pattern of conduct with any of the University sport programs or the Athletics Department overall,” Ole Miss senior associate athletics director for compliance Matt Ball wrote in a letter to the SEC to explain the violation.

Here is Ball's bio----

http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/compliance/mtt/ball_matt00.html

Trained at such bastions of compliance as Baylor, Oklahoma, and Tennessee.

That filing is from January 2013. In February, 2013, we have this story:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...-twitter-email-ole-miss-164510112--ncaaf.html

And whatever happened to those e-mails that were sent to Hugh?

http://3rdand57.com/ole-miss-compliance-wins-again/

February 2013 is the class of Laremy Tunsil, Tony Conner, Robert Nkemdiechi, and LaQuan Treadwell.
It is also the class that got the track coach in trouble.

http://www.redcuprebellion.com/2015/6/22/8826659/brian-oneal-ole-miss-track-coach-resign

His resignation came approximately six months after this story----

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/10/ole_miss_reportedly_under_inve.html

So, we have women's basketball, track, and football---sounds to me like it is -----

"a recruiting or competitive advantage and is indicative of a pattern of conduct with all of the University sport programs and the Athletics Department overall,”
 

TideMan09

Hall of Fame
Jan 17, 2009
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It's what we've reduced our rivals down to cheating their ying yangs off to compete with Bama on the recruiting trail..It's all they can do to keep up with the high standard of recruiting Coach Saban has us at..It's eventually going to bite The Reb's on the backside cause the NCAA can't turn a blind eye to it forever or I wouldn't think so anyways..
 

Snuffy Smith

All-American
Sep 12, 2012
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Not defending them in any way but I believe Ms schools allow students from Alabama to pay in state tuition.

Edit - not all of Alabama, just certain counties. Not sure if Davis lived in one of those counties


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rolltide_21

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Not defending them in any way but I believe Ms schools allow students from Alabama to pay in state tuition.

Edit - not all of Alabama, just certain counties. Not sure if Davis lived in one of those counties


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In order to get the out state tuition waved you must have a certain ACT score. I lived in one of those counties. If you chose to go to Miss. State a 25 (I think) waved the out of state tuition. Ole Miss may have a different rule. Idk if it's a state rule or an institutional rule.


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OBMS

1st Team
Jan 9, 2011
614
25
47
Jefferson County is not "one of those counties" and a kid with a questionable ACT score just for entry didn't get a waiver for making a 25----even with help from Saunders.

The point with all the walk on rhetoric was that the last time Ole Miss was on probation, they were restricted to 13 initial scholarships a year for two consecutive years (95/96). Tuberville's second year they brought in 38 new commits, 25 of which were "walk ons". And those walk ons came from everywhere---Houston, TX; New Jersey; Boca Raton, FL. They're like Auburn. They have been running the same scams for so long that they are virtually uncatchable.

http://articles.philly.com/1994-11-18/sports/25865840_1_probation-ole-miss-pete-boone

https://olemiss.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=377174
 

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