That is what I am thinking. We may be good but if CNS is sandbagging one year for the future, he has much bigger brass ones than most.
2016 Season QB Thread
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It's been asked numerous times in this thread - do you go with the guy that knows the playbook but can only adequately execute or go with the guy who will do very well with the few plays he does know?
What good is it if a guy knows the playbook but can't make the plays? I'm not saying that's the case here. Just pointing it out since you asked "So you would play a guy who doesn't have a grasp of the offense over someone who does?"
Again, I don't believe Saban ruled Hurts out with his comments today. I took them to mean he's in play as the season goes. Others have indicated they took the word "future" to mean 2017 and beyond.
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That's why I put it in quotes. I couldn't quite get the right phrase. Maybe "wishful thinking" is better.
I honestly think we're all going to be pleasantly surprised at how well Blake Barnett plays against USC. At least that's what I'm hoping!
That's more realistic and logical explanation. One thing that bothers me about this is that everyone keeps saying Tua or Hurts will transfer and I'm like what's the reason to do that?
GREAT POST!!! I especially bolded one sentence that I really think most of us don't really think about. Even if a knowledgeable fan, like yourself, or even a coach could watch all the practices and scrimmages they can't always know what the coaches are setting up and what they are looking for. Case in point, we heard about Blake Barnett throwing multiple picks in the scrimmages. Based on CNS comments, it sounds like Barnett has the most ability to utilize the talent we have at wide receiver. So, in these scrimmages, it is entirely possible they were asking him to make more difficult throws than either Bateman or Hurts and some of them may have resulted in INTs because they were more difficult throws to make...much more so than possibly what you'd ask someone with lesser arm talent (Bateman) or a true freshman (Hurts) to even attempt during the same scrimmage. So measuring how effective the qbs have and comparing how many INTs a guy has vs. another may not be comparing apples to apples. The average onlooker might not see that, but the coaches would certainly know this from first hand knowledge and then film review.
The way I'd look at it right now is: CNS feels that playing Hurts in this game might result in losing this game, but he may also believe that playing him in game 3, 4 or 5 might result in a win.
Was texting with one of our mods on here today and I told him that I really wonder if BB might just be a "gamer" who will really play well in the spotlight. IDK, but I hope we get to find out on Saturday!
I have supreme confidence no matter who lines up under C against USC, because of one fact, all 3 of our QB's has been practicing against the best D in college football & practicing against our D will have them all ready for anything USC's D comes at us with..
I honestly think that's why we've had so much success during The Saban Era with 1st yr starters at QB, to be the best, you have to play the best & our Boy's does just that at ever practice at Bama under Coach Saban..Enjoy the ride we're on cause it's about to kick into another NC run..Watch & see..
I honestly think that's why we've had so much success during The Saban Era with 1st yr starters at QB, to be the best, you have to play the best & our Boy's does just that at ever practice at Bama under Coach Saban..Enjoy the ride we're on cause it's about to kick into another NC run..Watch & see..
I had my doubts about Coker, but I was certainly wrong about him. Blake Barnett has the talent. He just needs to play smart and take what the defense gives him. He has a very good OL, talented RBs and the best receivers in the country.
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We will probably see Bateman and Barnett. If one gets hot then that will be the guy they go with. Bateman has worked hard and does have some wheels. I just think Barnett definitely has the better arm.
Well, this move did catch me off guard a bit. If its possible to be surprised and not surprised at the same time, that's me. I sort of bought in the possibility of Hurts being the second option during the game thinking that Barnett was playing himself out of contention with scrimmage turnovers. Obviously there was more to the evaluation of those situations.
But I am not surprised the more experienced players are going to start and play. I have no doubt once the ball is snapped that Hurts is the best QB we have. And that's sort of how I interpret coach's comments regarding his play. The differentiator here though is the knowledge of the playbook to get guys lined up correctly, checking to the right play once the defense adjusts, and starting the play at the right time. I can see where both Bateman and Barnett would have the advantage over Hurts in the pre-snap department. If Hurts catches up in this department over the course of the season he could very well overtake the others to become the starter. But for now, he just hasnt had enough time in the system to have a solid command of the pre-snap management just yet. I am good with the plan.
But I am not surprised the more experienced players are going to start and play. I have no doubt once the ball is snapped that Hurts is the best QB we have. And that's sort of how I interpret coach's comments regarding his play. The differentiator here though is the knowledge of the playbook to get guys lined up correctly, checking to the right play once the defense adjusts, and starting the play at the right time. I can see where both Bateman and Barnett would have the advantage over Hurts in the pre-snap department. If Hurts catches up in this department over the course of the season he could very well overtake the others to become the starter. But for now, he just hasnt had enough time in the system to have a solid command of the pre-snap management just yet. I am good with the plan.
At this point, I'd love to see Bateman come out and OWN the QB position as everyone here seems to have written him off. He can do it.
I said it a few weeks ago, Blake Barnett will be our qb this year. Saturday he will prove he is our guy if he is given a shot. Do some of you not realize Blake is going up against probably the best defense in CFB, and the best secondary Alabama has had in years in practice everyday. Of course he is going to throw a few picks in practice, I'm sure the defense knows the plays our offense is running and can jump a few routes causing an interception. Given his arm strength, mobility, and our wide receivers + OJ Howard this could be the best offense Alabama has ever had!!! I am very excited to see what he can do.I honestly think we're all going to be pleasantly surprised at how well Blake Barnett plays against USC. At least that's what I'm hoping!
IMO, your offense requires a QB who can hit a WR on deep routes in stride. At some point this season the ability to hit those receivers will win or lose games for Alabama. For that reason, I feel that Barnett is going to have to be the guy if you are going to repeat this year. His arm is already there.
That said, Coker was terrible at hitting receivers running those routes early in the season last year and he figured it out, so what do I know?
That said, Coker was terrible at hitting receivers running those routes early in the season last year and he figured it out, so what do I know?
That's the question that has to be answered.... can Cooper "hit a long pass down the field"?
And the resounding answer will be "yes". Winning the starting position will not depend on whether he can hit the deep ball - he can. It will depend on the intangibles.
I think deep down everybody wants him to own it as that means the younger guys get to redshirt and we're better off that way, but I think everyone is getting consumed with hoping one of the younger QB's are like A.J. and will start for more than one year for us. I'd love nothing more than to see Bateman come out on fire and stay that way all year. That way Hurts or Barnett can get the mop up duty and learn for next year.
I couldn't answer that, BUT, we have have seen this offseason that folks with excellent shots at playing will transfer for no apparent rhyme or reason. Always lots of factors involved.
This will be an interesting year. Do we have an All American at QB and just don't know it? I'm not sure...if we did it seems like that person would have stepped forward before now. If players don't come or transfer because they are afraid of playing time, then we don't want them. One aspect of a leader is that they will fight for what they want. GMac, A. J., Sims and Coker all did it...I hope we see it again this year.
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