Imagine CNS dealing with segregation, the image of southern people as inferior and having the majority of sports writers from regions that hate southern football.Can anyone imagine Coach Bryant having to deal with Twitter, and other "social media"?
No, I can't either. So much for trying to compare.
I never would have dreamed that a discussion of who is our greatest HC, QB or LB would irritate and upset someone.Thats the beauty of hindsight, and for those of us who were around in the Bryant era. Why even have this silly discussion its like we are eating our own. I know I posted earlier but in hindsight I wish this thread would just get deleted. We all love Bama football and thats all the counts at this point in time. 15 years ago if you read this thread out loud you would have been locked up in a psych ward.
I never would have dreamed that a discussion of who is our greatest HC, QB or LB would irritate and upset someone.
I see the problem. It is not about who we think is the best, it is about our agenda. I have no agenda to promote The Bear as better than Saban. I have no agenda to promote Coach Saban as better than Coach Bryant. All I do is look at the different eras, the stats and discuss it. I don't care who comes out on top, other than I would like to see Bama win seven of the past ten years. That would no doubt put Coach Saban on top. That is an Alabama agenda.May want to revisit your title to this thread? Most rational Bama fans have little trouble with the concept Bryant and Saban. But often it becomes Bryant or Saban. Now we have to choose? Gonna get heated, guaranteed.
the problem is that when CPB coached there was nowhere near the amount of great teams around like there is today. Plus there were nowhere as near as many recruiting restrictions in his day either. But I think if anyone wants to make the strongest case for CPB they really need to start with his undefeated Kentucky team that should've been national champions. That is something no coach can ever say that they have ever done.Coach Bryant could take a team with fair to average talent and beat opponents that were loaded with talent.
As great a coach as Coach Saban is, in his "process", he has to have equal or better talent in order to become a champion. There's your difference.
No, it's about the idea that you're asking " who is the best." It's just that we can't tell you much more than how we feel about it. We think on something, we get this rush of corresponding emotion and we're off and running. This thread is what a Crimson wind sprint looks like. And unless you live on planet Vulcan, you too are guilty as charged when you ask such stuff. :smile:I see the problem. It is not about who we think is the best, it is about our agenda. I have no agenda to promote The Bear as better than Saban. I have no agenda to promote Coach Saban as better than Coach Bryant. All I do is look at the different eras, the stats and discuss it. I don't care who comes out on top, other than I would like to see Bama win seven of the past ten years. That would no doubt put Coach Saban on top. That is an Alabama agenda.
I agree. It's like which of your wonderful successful kids do you love the most. You just give thanks you shared in both.Let each be the best in his own era and I am happy.
Yup..The Strength and Conditioning programs in this day & age of football is sooooo much better than it was when Coach Bryant was our HC..That has closed the gap between the Elite schools like Bama or Ohio St & the smaller D-1 schools, in today's college football, if you don't bring your best game each week, one of the smaller schools will bite ya on the backside cause of sheer amount of talent there is now days..That only makes what Coach Saban is doing right now that much more impressive..JMHOthe problem is that when CPB coached there was nowhere near the amount of great teams around like there is today. Plus there were nowhere as near as many recruiting restrictions in his day either. But I think if anyone wants to make the strongest case for CPB they really need to start with his undefeated Kentucky team that should've been national champions. That is something no coach can ever say that they have ever done.
Even with that you could argue that CPB should have 9 NCs in which the argument totally shifts into CPB's favor. Personally I think CNS's level of competition makes me think he might be the best, but Ive never really experienced CPB in person, so Im more going off of what I grew up hearing and what Ive read. Personally I hate to choose between the two, but if you forced me I would say CNS.Yup..The Strength and Conditioning programs in this day & age of football is sooooo much better than it was when Coach Bryant was our HC..That has closed the gap between the Elite schools like Bama or Ohio St & the smaller D-1 schools, in today's college football, if you don't bring your best game each week, one of the smaller schools will bite ya on the backside cause of sheer amount of talent there is now days..That only makes what Coach Saban is doing right now that much more impressive..JMHO
---------Coach Bryant could take a team with fair to average talent and beat opponents that were loaded with talent.
As great a coach as Coach Saban is, in his "process", he has to have equal or better talent in order to become a champion. There's your difference.
Wow. I am just a simple person who loves college football and Alabama. Everything you just said about the idea of asking is way over my head. I had no rush of emotion and I live in Boaz. But, to each his own.No, it's about the idea that you're asking " who is the best." It's just that we can't tell you much more than how we feel about it. We think on something, we get this rush of corresponding emotion and we're off and running. This thread is what a Crimson wind sprint looks like. And unless you live on planet Vulcan, you too are guilty as charged when you ask such stuff. :smile: