Alabama Assistant Bo Davis leaving over inquiry into possible recruiting violations
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I'm not that worried at this point in time.
If what is being said is true, it involved a player who didn't commit to Alabama. If the player doesn't go to the respective school, it makes the violations far less important. He couldn't have played while ineligible at Alabama, etc... and by all accounts Bo Davis was promptly fired.
Also, Alabama replaced coaches all the time. They replaced Bo Davis once before. It still sucks, but unless there's more to this Alabama will be fine. They'll get another good coach and this isn't the first time a employee has been fired over breaking NCAA rules.
A reminds of why the mere mention of violations makes a lot of folks nervous:
http://sports.outsidethebeltway.com/2007/11/ncaa-screwed-alabama-say-former-chairman/
David Swank, who held the position of chairman for seven years and served on the committee for nine, testified in a defamation and privacy suit against the NCAA brought by disassociated booster Ray Keller in Jackson County Circuit Court. Swank questioned the NCAA’s finding of three major violations against Alabama and Keller and said the NCAA may have violated its own rules by using confidential sources. The NCAA also violated rules by not turning over all the available evidence to the infractions committee during a November 2001 hearing in Indianapolis.
http://sports.outsidethebeltway.com/2007/11/ncaa-screwed-alabama-say-former-chairman/
David Swank, who held the position of chairman for seven years and served on the committee for nine, testified in a defamation and privacy suit against the NCAA brought by disassociated booster Ray Keller in Jackson County Circuit Court. Swank questioned the NCAA’s finding of three major violations against Alabama and Keller and said the NCAA may have violated its own rules by using confidential sources. The NCAA also violated rules by not turning over all the available evidence to the infractions committee during a November 2001 hearing in Indianapolis.
Thanks Selma. So yeah, many of us " old timers " are scarred for life when it comes to the NCAA. Everyone who is quick to tag some of us as " chicken littles" could perhaps be a bit more understanding. You had to live through that nightmare to truly understand.
This is the part that I was talking about. We're the most talented team in the country, and we have an all around great staff that really knows how to run an organization, with the game's best at the top, so yes, we'll be ok, but losing your top positional coach (yeah, that's arguable; I think it's true) at awkward time of the year for hiring replacements isn't good. Our lines were better with Bo. And, just to say, I don't generally think much of anything when I hear that we're replacing a coach for exactly the reasons you were getting at -- didn't even bat an eye at Kirby leaving.
The textbook situation was definitely a raw deal for Bama with heavy-handed treatment from the NCAA. But frankly that mistreatment was mild compared to some of the other NCAA actions leveled against Bama in prior years.
Thanks to Selma for putting things in perspective...
I am right there with you, Tideflyer. The NCAA did things against Bama so outrageous that people nowadays have a hard time believing stuff like that actually happened.
I'm scared of any coach from Ole Miss. But the NCAAs handling of anything Bama has made me that way.
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That seems to be normal for many kids. They spend more time with their position coach than any other. One thing for sure is Coach Saban has many coaches that would love work for him.
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Just curious to read what you are reading in regards to it being a player who didn't commit to Bama.
Well this is all second hand info at the point but if Alabama isn't in serious trouble that's one indication:
But this quote from a reputable guy helps:
Thanks for the finds. I came to this this morning and I may have missed those as I speed read 7 pages of posts.
There isn't a day that goes by when this stuff is brought up that I don't immediately think about tennessee, roy adams and the role that played out with the ncaa. Tough to learn the hard way that absolute power corrupts absolutely. You give any organization legal autonomy, from that point on, it's broke.
I'm sensing a long-awaited power move on the part of the haters now that Slive has retired. Look out, SEC. I sure hope Sankey is up to the challenge. Now that Vito is out of the way (not the best analogy, I know) the five families are coming at us. Time to settle all family business?
not sure what kid this is centered around -- but if he didn't sign with us -- I wonder if Coach Bo was "outbid" by the school he did end up at.....
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Not every recruiting violation is about money or benefits. Why don't we wait on that talk until we learn more?
No worries. You're not the only person I've seen reference that idea, and my post just happened to come a few minutes after you posted.
I have to say I am nervous about this situation with Bo Davis. Every time Bama has gotten in trouble with the NCAA is starts with officials and the fans saying "this is all handled properly and nothing will come of it".
This.
Hated every bit of going through it. Never want to go through it again. The mere mention of NCAA and Alabama in the same breath always makes the hair on the back of my neck stick up. Geez. When the NCAA is snooping around other campuses my first thought is, "I wonder how many scholarships Alabama is going to lose because of this."
Roll Tide!!
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While I certainly agree - you've got to admit when a coach is let go that quickly concerning "Recruiting Violations" it narrows down the list of possible offenses. To deserve a punishment that swift and total makes it pretty serious and there are a limited number of offenses that fit that punishment. It could be something totally unique, but I understand the logic for leaning in the direction of money and benefits.
Joker Phillips was let go at Florida for nothing related to money or benefits.
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