DA opts not to press charges on Cam and Hootie...

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Catfish said:

How did they expect that the fact that there were four people wouldn't come out? If it had gone to trial and those other two testified that they were there, the defense attorney would have made the cops look like complete idiots and/or completely dishonest. Kind of like the media (rightfully) is doing now.

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I bet the DA knew about it and this went into his decision making. I'm sure the cop heard about it too. Wonder if he was disciplined for filling out a false report .

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rgw said:

Wow. They let the other two non-Bama players go even though they had a situation where any of the four could have been the firearm or marijuana owner.


Wonder if those officers "geaux tigers" a bit?

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Reminds me of when the Tuscaloosa Police Department had a policeman riding around with a barner tag on the front of his cop car.

http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/03/tuscaloosa_police_cruiser_has.html

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RTR91 said:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't all occupants in the car normally arrested if none take ownership of the drugs?

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It's really all officer discretion. They could factor in where it was located in the car and decide to charge a specific person or they could charge everyone. The da could end up bringing charges against the people in the car if they saw fit even if the officer doesn't arrest them.

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You know, I can't get too worked up about this either way.

The Alabama players screwed up, they made a mistake. There's no getting around that. The arresting officers certainly seemed to go out of their way to pin what ever charges they could, for what ever reason, on the Alabama players. However, it was dismissed it's done, game over, DA did the right thing for what ever reason and now everyone can get on with their lives.

I would say though, to any of the people who think these players haven't been punished enough just review the facts. Consider two of the four people in the car were released. Consider the amount of marijuana found (on a search that apparently was not consented to) was small enough that you might find that amount in the ash tray of any given number of cars. The only thing, the only thing in all of this that really lingered was stolen gun aspect. May be that's why they were brought in, may be that was the big deal, but it was stolen from Baldwin County. When is the last time Cam was there? So, nothing to see here, move along. They made a mistake, it's been dealt with and that's that.

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It is questionable when it ends up being only the athletes at a out-of-state institution charged and the two anonymous joes just walked away scotch free. It may be the officer's discretion but it is more useful to the state to arrest all four of them and see who talks or how each story fits. And the overwhelming majority of the time, that is exactly what the arresting officer(s) will do.

It smacks of prejudice. He wanted to nail the athletes and didn't even have probable cause for a search.

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So basically Louisiana cops are bad at their jobs...

but will this curtail the "preferential treatment" angle?


NO.

Why did the charges get dropped? Because there was going to be public scrutiny on the case. Once they get some kids from the poor parts, it will be business as usual for corrupt LA cops.

And I don't mean Los Angeles.

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RTR91 said:

Highly doubtful they will be suspended.

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Or maybe we give a Cam Newton type suspension. Suspend him today and let him come back to the team tomorrow.

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If you can smell 2 seeds you're in the wrong profession.

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And I don't mean Los Angeles.[/QUOTE]

Lower Alabama???

Where the other two guys in the car listed in the police report? If not, is that a falsification of a police report?

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You'd think after all these years, Louisiana would be well acquainted with how tough our DEFENSE is, especially IN the state of Louisiana.




The police officers might have crossed more lines than Jordan Jefferson did in the BCS title game.

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Glad to see the charges dropped. From a selfish standpoint, that was the best case scenario. Hopefully Cam and Hootie have their butts worked off during the off-season, and they learn their lesson. I still wouldn't be disappointed if they were suspended for the opener, although I sincerely doubt that will happen. Whether they were perfectly innocent or not, being out that late with marijuana and weapons in the car is a selfish/ really stupid choice. They may not be completely at fault, but it seems unlikely that both were in Cam's car and he had no clue. It's just not logical. With that said, I'm ecstatically relieved that we will have them both this season.

The thing that chaps me most about this situation is the DA's comments. His "Working hard while we were in the AC" comment may be the most asinine thing I've ever heard. If you don't have a case because of lack of evidence, then just say that and move on. Making a comment like that only adds to the fire of those who feel like college athletes get preferential treatment from the judicial system. It may not have been enough to send them to trial, but people get charged for less every day. Especially in the atmosphere we are in where the Stanford swimmer is still fresh on people's minds. It's literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard a lawyer say. It's so bad I almost wonder if he was trying to create a firestorm of public controversy.

The other thing that angers me is the public reaction to this. I hate our social media culture where it seems the most vocal are the least informed. I knew better, but I made the mistake of reading some facebook posts, and it honestly sickened me. I can't even guess as to how many people I saw claiming that Bama paid off this "Tuscaloosa DA." No one cares about being right any more, but daggumit they've got an opinion and they want to let you hear it. I mean, if you are going to be obnoxious, at least be semi-informed, right? But I guess that's asking to much.

Honestly, I hope I never get tried for anything in a court. These same morons might be the jury of my peers. I'm starting to believe that the majority of my "Peers" would pass their judgement based on a headline they glanced at in passing on twitter, and never looked at again. "Screw the evidence.Some guy said he was guilty on the internet, so it must be true."

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tide96 said:

Maybe this wasn't the week to discuss letting LSU fans post again.

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Actually, this is the week to open it up. We can see how they really feel....

Truth finally out. These two aren't thugs as some suggested. Barners and Corndogs aren't happy. A good day.

And in this day of big NFL contracts, if he is not charged, play him. Make him do something constructive like community service, and something that teaches him. Sitting is not always the way.

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skrayper77 said:

So basically Louisiana cops are bad at their jobs...

but will this curtail the "preferential treatment" angle?


NO.

Why did the charges get dropped? Because there was going to be public scrutiny on the case. Once they get some kids from the poor parts, it will be business as usual for corrupt LA cops.

And I don't mean Los Angeles.

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let's not make overly broad statements. I'm sure there are plenty of cops in LA who are great at their jobs. Just because there were a couple of bad ones, or just ones that made really bad decisions, in this case does not mean they are all that way.

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Catfish said:

Apparently that department doesn't require an IQ test as part of the hiring process.

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Most don't but i don't want to throw this to the NS board.

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rgw said:

Interesting. I'm wondering if the arresting officer botched something?

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Officers lacked Probable Cause and some of their evidence would have been inadmissible. Weak case at best... My question is: Was there a legal search of the vehicle, or were they browbeat into saying yes?