2 Dallas PD shot during BLM protest (Update: 12 shot, 5 dead)

One very important problem that we are dealing with now is few in the BLM group want to wait for due process when law enforcement is involved . They want a conviction on day 1. All the evidence and facts are not important to them. Especially when video footage is involved. They see all they need to convict and scream justice. They no longer believe "your innocent until proven guilty". However, they do think the "victim" is innocent and dont need due process to determine if in fact they were not innocent.

This disconnect is from the continued racial devide our leaders are both allowing to continue and in some cases stoking the fire for political purposes and their own agendas.

day-day said:

A white guy was shot by police in a community down the road from where I live earlier this week but I somehow missed Obama's immediate and presumptive response to it.

What kills me is that so many people like Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and Obama give condolences to the victims in Dallas but they have to include the MN and LA deaths in the same sentence.

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Did you not see this when we got the moral equivalence between Rodney King and Reginald Denny?

To be fair - on first appearances, the Minn shooting bothers me far more of the two. I'm still awaiting the results but that's not one at this point I can find any defense or even mindset of the cop. I DO get the problems in the Sterling shooting but he may also be just as innocent.

So, is this murderer a racist? I haven't seen the term applied to him in any of the mainstream media articles I've read.

Relayer said:

So, is this murderer a racist? I haven't seen the term applied to him in any of the mainstream media articles I've read.

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Definitely a bigot.

Relayer said:

So, is this murderer a racist? I haven't seen the term applied to him in any of the mainstream media articles I've read.

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That doesn't fit their narrative.

day-day said:

A white guy was shot by police in a community down the road from where I live earlier this week but I somehow missed Obama's immediate and presumptive response to it.

What kills me is that so many people like Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and Obama give condolences to the victims in Dallas but they have to include the MN and LA deaths in the same sentence.

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If you dont see the connection, you're not paying attention.

Relayer said:

So, is this murderer a racist? I haven't seen the term applied to him in any of the mainstream media articles I've read.

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He can't be. He was black and by definition black people cannot be racist. (The same folks lecturing me about this one are the same folks who have invented "white privilege", like the black student Prez at Missouri who came from a family worth $20 million).

Btw - have you ever noticed that not one white liberal who writes on 'white privilege' ever resigns their job and demands it be given to a non-white person?

Someone recently said that race relations in the US have been set back 50 years. They were so right it's not funny.

Skeeterpop said:

One very important problem that we are dealing with now is few in the BLM group want to wait for due process when law enforcement is involved . They want a conviction on day 1. All the evidence and facts are not important to them. Especially when video footage is involved. They see all they need to convict and scream justice. They no longer believe "your innocent until proven guilty". However, they do think the "victim" is innocent and dont need due process to determine if in fact they were not innocent.

This disconnect is from the continued racial devide our leaders are both allowing to continue and in some cases stoking the fire for political purposes and their own agendas.

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It's a problem with video in general and is not even remotely specific to BLM or any other group. People believe an idea and then see video that "proves" it to them so they react. In this case its the idea that cops treat black people poorly, which of course they most certainly do, so they react without caring whether or not these particular stories from the particular video are true or not. Happens on all sides of the political spectrum and has been for years.

Bama Reb said:

Someone recently said that race relations in the US have been set back 50 years. They were so right it's not funny.

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That can't be true. Fifty years ago was 1966. And they were set back fifty years ago in 1995 with the OJ verdict. So figuring that they went back to 1945 then and we advanced 21 years (putting us at 1966 by chance), we are ALREADY at 1966 race relations. Set THOSE back 50 years and we're back to 1916.


Despite the rhetoric on TV, I don't believe that for a minute. How many lynchings are going on? The Klan has to basically hide itself and no person wants his other friends to know he's in the Klan.

So much of this is TV inspired rhetoric. Incidentally, I had someone up in arms at work over me posting the photo of the guy who was the 'person of interest.' That photo might have been on my page for perhaps 45 minutes at best. When they clarified it, I took it down. You folks do realize that I did that because: a) you see, I actually LIVE HERE in Dallas; b) many of my friends/acquaintances spend time down in that area of town; c) they utilize social media while down there.

It never dawned on me folks would suggest I was a racist for it. But that's where we are.

Jon said:

It's a problem with video in general and is not even remotely specific to BLM or any other group. People believe an idea and then see video that "proves" it to them so they react.

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Yeah. But where I would 'sort of' agree with Skeeterpop on the Red Stick shooting is that from the video I saw, it fudges and you can't see the actual shooting or what fully is going on. We DO know the guy was killed by the cops, not even they dispute that point. But what DID happen when the video wasn't focused there?

That's the kind of question anyone should ask.

Jon said:

In this case its the idea that cops treat black people poorly, which of course they most certainly do, so they react without caring whether or not these particular stories from the particular video are true or not. Happens on all sides of the political spectrum and has been for years.

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Speaking of video and treating blacks poorly, I'll go you one better. Remember OJ and the celebrations many black folks had when the got away with it? Vincent Bugliosi made the valid point that the problem was that the prosecution let Cochran and Company get by with trying to make "bad experience with the cops during a routine stop" with "cops framing me for crime I never committed."

And as far as video, well, once that glove didn't fit.....

Btw- I've heard multiple stories that have been changed.

WHAT WEAPON did the assassin use?

My work mates that are black they were totally upset about all the shootings going down yesterday and the day before, I feel for them as this kind of action hurts the whole mind set of everyone.

selmaborntidefan said:

Btw- I've heard multiple stories that have been changed.

WHAT WEAPON did the assassin use?

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I heard someone on a video say it was an AR-15, but don't remember who it was.

tide power fan said:

My work mates that are black they were totally upset about all the shootings going down yesterday and the day before, I feel for them as this kind of action hurts the whole mind set of everyone.

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And could very well change the way in which they look at you.