Expansion: Alive and Well

Come be at the beck and call of King Shorthorn and his crony, Prince Sooner. I just don't think that has any lure to a team in a stable conference.


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Quick--somebody tell the barn and Missouri that CNS has forbidden them from leaving the SEC for the Big 12...:biggrin:

Who are they going to get Houston? A Canadian football team?


Chelsea?


Oh that's futbol.... My bad.:wink:

I don't see how any of those options significantly raise the value of their football portfolio. OU should have joined the SEC when they had a chance.

I recommend the Big 12 take Missouri and Auburn!!

Apparently the announcement of the ACC Network caused them to panic about their position in the college football universe. Not sure why they weren't panicked before.

I'm also not sure this isn't simply rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. The league exists at the behest of Texas. Perhaps, maybe, Texas is throwing the rest of the league a bone here. They will make more money off of this. Their tv contracts guarantee an equal revenue growth for each team they add. Meaning if they are making 30 million per team right now, then each new school makes the revenue go up 30 mill a piece. The key here is, that any new addition will have to agree to not getting a full share right away. TCU and West Virginia are just now getting full shares this year. So, for a few years, the 10 schools that presently comprise the Big 12 will get a bounce in revenue until the new schools become fully vested.

Some folks have said that ESPN and Fox aren't going to be happy to be shelling out more money for what is surely to be lackluster additions (BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, UConn?) Well they agreed to the contracts! They did this in order to keep the Big 12 together. ESPN/Fox believed it was actually going to be cheaper if the Big 12 remained a conference, instead of several teams going west to form a PAC 16 and then the conference imploding. So, they wrote it into the contract that they would increase shares per teams evenly if the Big 12 expanded. Now, pay up.

I heard on the radio that the vote was overwhelmingly to expand. I couldn’t help but notice the word was not unanimous.

I just wonder how much cable tv rates will go up for ESPN. Someone has to pay for it and it will be the consumer.

JBama_in_PCOLA said:

Who are they going to get Houston? A Canadian football team?


Chelsea?

Oh that's futbol.... My bad.:wink:

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I heard on local Orlando news this morning that UCF is licking their chops at the announcement

I think this guy's prediction is going to end up being pretty accurate:

http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/big-12-expansion-schools

UCF is definitely on the table and a strong contender, as is Cincinatti, BYU, East Carolina. I believe Boise St, the service academies, and even Colorado St. will be in the mix. La Tech might even be high on the list. And before someone says it: All these schools have weaknesses and you should notice the tone of the announcement when they say they are looking for schools that can grow with them.

I don't know if this is good for college football or not but it is the way things have been heading since at least 1991.

TideEngineer08 said:

I think this guy's prediction is going to end up being pretty accurate:

http://collegefootballnews.com/2016/big-12-expansion-schools

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Not bad. I don't think any new team will hail from Tx, though, so no Houston. Going after Colorado and Misery are good ideas even though I don''t believe either will change back.

NationalTitles16 said:

Not bad. I don't think any new team will hail from Tx, though, so no Houston. Going after Colorado and Misery are good ideas even though I don''t believe either will change back.

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Houston does appear to be a long shot. Why would Texas allow yet another in state school to be boosted and make instate recruiting that much tougher?

I can see Colorado rethinking the move to the Pac 12 but ultimately I can't see them biting the bullet and moving back. Ditto Missouri although at times I wish they would move back. I'm sure there would be financial repercussions for that if we were to lose St. Louis/Kansas City from a market perspective. I just don't think Missouri fits in and you're probably never going to convince me that they do.

NationalTitles16 said:

UCF is definitely on the table and a strong contender, as is Cincinatti, BYU, East Carolina. I believe Boise St, the service academies, and even Colorado St. will be in the mix. La Tech might even be high on the list. And before someone says it: All these schools have weaknesses and you should notice the tone of the announcement when they say they are looking for schools that can grow with them.

I don't know if this is good for college football or not but it is the way things have been heading since at least 1991.

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Coach Bryant foresaw it in the 70s. When he offered to sponsor GT's re-admittance to the SEC. Wasn't because of his great love of Bobby Dodd, nor GT, and certainly not Atlanta.

ALA2262 said:

Coach Bryant foresaw it in the 70s. When he offered to sponsor GT's re-admittance to the SEC. Wasn't because of his great love of Bobby Dodd, nor GT, and certainly not Atlanta.

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I had no idea Coach Bryant did this.

TideEngineer08 said:

Houston does appear to be a long shot. Why would Texas allow yet another in state school to be boosted and make instate recruiting that much tougher?

I can see Colorado rethinking the move to the Pac 12 but ultimately I can't see them biting the bullet and moving back. Ditto Missouri although at times I wish they would move back. I'm sure there would be financial repercussions for that if we were to lose St. Louis/Kansas City from a market perspective. I just don't think Missouri fits in and you're probably never going to convince me that they do.

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I gotta tell you, sometimes I miss the old days with the old alignments that made geographical and cultural sense, but those days are gone. Truth is, Missouri really doesn't "fit" anywhere. They aren't southwest. They aren't midwest. They aren't southeast. They are a tweener school in a tweener state. They will never be a good fit anywhere.

ALA2262 said:

Coach Bryant foresaw it in the 70s. When he offered to sponsor GT's re-admittance to the SEC. Wasn't because of his great love of Bobby Dodd, nor GT, and certainly not Atlanta.

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I wasn't aware Coach Bryant did this either. And really the roots of this do go back at least as far as the 70's. The changes in college TV in the 80's made the changes since possible.

I'm not surprised by it. Although I'm sure he had no love for Dodd/Tech/Atlanta, I'm also sure he was aware of the value they all had for the SEC and probably didn't like to see them go. Coach Bryant usually put what was good for the conference first. This is why we got the Sugar Bowl/SEC alliance.