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This dude is only a bit over a 100 miles from Huntsville, in a beeline. Some friends who live within a couple of blocks were bicycling in Monte Sano Park, also a couple of blocks away, and took a pic of a deer skeleton. Each rib had been bitten off the spine. AFAIK, only wolves, cougars and bears can do that in North America...

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Saw a black one in Bibb County roughly 20 years ago - before the advent of cell phone camera's. More recently. saw one more like the one in the picture on March 22 of this year in the canyon just north of town here, where they are known to reside. Stopped to try to get a picture but it ran into cover before I could get the phone.
 

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Saw a black one in Bibb County roughly 20 years ago - before the advent of cell phone camera's. More recently. saw one more like the one in the picture on March 22 of this year in the canyon just north of town here, where they are known to reside. Stopped to try to get a picture but it ran into cover before I could get the phone.
I have a pug mark pic I took over in the park, with my hiking stick beside it for a benchmark. It measured 4 1/2" across, bigger than any bobcat alive. We are so overrun with deer here, they could have been here for a long time and we'd never know. They hide their kills, so finding that deer skeleton was unusual. Bear are only a casual and opportunistic predator of deer...
 

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I have a pug mark pic I took over in the park, with my hiking stick beside it for a benchmark. It measured 4 1/2" across, bigger than any bobcat alive. We are so overrun with deer here, they could have been here for a long time and we'd never know. They hide their kills, so finding that deer skeleton was unusual. Bear are only a casual and opportunistic predator of deer...
I rounded a curve at roughly 60 mph and at first thought it was just another deer crossing the road before the tail caught my eye and then the general outline came into better focus. This was a big male, probably 150 lbs. The mule deer here are overpopulated and during the winter/spring I saw several big groups of antelope in this particular area. No doubt there's plenty to eat around here for him and his friends. Of course, there are supposed to be no big cats in central Alabama and I've tried to dismiss what I saw as maybe a big dog (Great Dane size)...but I could see the head and paws and they appeared very cat-like (that's all that I could see) along with the general size. I admit I could be wrong, but even the fur looked liked a cat.





From a distance they can look a lot alike, I guess, so who knows? But others report seeing them as well:

http://www.al.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2014/08/it_was_not_an_overgrown_housec.html

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20040202/NEWS/402020301

I did not write that op-ed, but the circumstances were similar, except it was Hwy 5 near Woodstock.

When we were in western IL we saw and heard a bobcat - they were pretty common there. A bobcat is just so much smaller - more like a maine coon - that I just can't see mistaking one for a mountain lion.
 

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Back when I was in junior college in Orange County, California, I was running alone in a canyon trail near Santiago Canyon College. I still had about an hour left on a two-hour run and several mountain lion cubs had run in front of me across the trail. I simply booked it the rest of the way to my Jeep. Don't know if that was the best idea, but I was totally alone, and there had been reported mountain lion attacks in several other parks in Orange County that summer.
 

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I rounded a curve at roughly 60 mph and at first thought it was just another deer crossing the road before the tail caught my eye and then the general outline came into better focus. This was a big male, probably 150 lbs. The mule deer here are overpopulated and during the winter/spring I saw several big groups of antelope in this particular area. No doubt there's plenty to eat around here for him and his friends. Of course, there are supposed to be no big cats in central Alabama and I've tried to dismiss what I saw as maybe a big dog (Great Dane size)...but I could see the head and paws and they appeared very cat-like (that's all that I could see) along with the general size. I admit I could be wrong, but even the fur looked liked a cat.





From a distance they can look a lot alike, I guess, so who knows? But others report seeing them as well:

http://www.al.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2014/08/it_was_not_an_overgrown_housec.html

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20040202/NEWS/402020301

I did not write that op-ed, but the circumstances were similar, except it was Hwy 5 near Woodstock.

When we were in western IL we saw and heard a bobcat - they were pretty common there. A bobcat is just so much smaller - more like a maine coon - that I just can't see mistaking one for a mountain lion.
I would never make that mistake. I had a Maine Coon which was actually larger than the average Alabama bobcat. At his heaviest, he weighed 28 lb. His paws, however, would do good to measure 2 1/2"...
 

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I would never make that mistake. I had a Maine Coon which was actually larger than the average Alabama bobcat. At his heaviest, he weighed 28 lb. His paws, however, would do good to measure 2 1/2"...
A larger maine coon is bigger than the average bobcat and that's my point - not that you would mistake it but many people do. I think a lot of folks may not realize just how big a cougar/mountain lion/panther is. Someone had supposedly taken a picture of one in Tuscaloosa county from their car and it's maybe the size of a bobcat (quality was not good either).

Where we are now is well, out in the middle of nowhere. The cat I saw here was moving from the Modoc National Forest toward the South Warner Wilderness.
 

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A larger maine coon is bigger than the average bobcat and that's my point - not that you would mistake it but many people do. I think a lot of folks may not realize just how big a cougar/mountain lion/panther is. Someone had supposedly taken a picture of one in Tuscaloosa county from their car and it's maybe the size of a bobcat (quality was not good either).

Where we are now is well, out in the middle of nowhere. The cat I saw here was moving from the Modoc National Forest toward the South Warner Wilderness.
We actually have a large cat in our neighborhood now. There have been several sightings and it appears to have lost its fear of humans. It scared a friend of our half to death. She was visiting a friend up here and got out of her car before seeing it. (Got back in in a hurry.) It was asleep on the driveway and didn't budge at first. Then, it got up, stretched and ambled off. It's cougar-sized and built, but it has a foreshortened tail. Here is the only pic taken, by the weekend weathergirl up here at channel 31. It was crossing the parking lot. She ran back inside but took a shot with her phone...

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We actually have a large cat in our neighborhood now. There have been several sightings and it appears to have lost its fear of humans. It scared a friend of our half to death. She was visiting a friend up here and got out of her car before seeing it. (Got back in in a hurry.) It was asleep on the driveway and didn't budge at first. Then, it got up, stretched and ambled off. It's cougar-sized and built, but it has a foreshortened tail. Here is the only pic taken, by the weekend weathergirl up here at channel 31. It was crossing the parking lot. She ran back inside but took a shot with her phone...

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Big cat. What would you say...60-70 lbs? Maybe a touch more or less?
 

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Big cat. What would you say...60-70 lbs? Maybe a touch more or less?
I'd say that, judging from the reports up here, closer to 100. Of course, you have to allow for natural exaggeration, when you find something in your backyard which looks like that. There's more about it, other than the tail, which looks cougar, rather than bobcat, particularly the long legs/body. Friends of ours who live several blocks away, on the west side of the mountain, swear they've seen a cougar, long tail and all, on their property. They back up to several acres of woods on the plateau, more going down the side of the mountain. Since we know for sure they're within 100 miles or so and with many thousands of acres of woods surrounding our mountain, together with hundreds of deer, there's no good reason not to expect them here...
 

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I'd say that, judging from the reports up here, closer to 100. Of course, you have to allow for natural exaggeration, when you find something in your backyard which looks like that. There's more about it, other than the tail, which looks cougar, rather than bobcat, particularly the long legs/body. Friends of ours who live several blocks away, on the west side of the mountain, swear they've seen a cougar, long tail and all, on their property. They back up to several acres of woods on the plateau, more going down the side of the mountain. Since we know for sure they're within 100 miles or so and with many thousands of acres of woods surrounding our mountain, together with hundreds of deer, there's no good reason not to expect them here...
Not a great perspective for determining size/weight in the picture but your estimate doesn't seem outlandish. There's no mistaking that tail. The tail was what made me sit up and really take notice (aside from the thought of the suicidal deer here being just up ahead). I went home that night and proceeded to have a gallbladder attack and had it removed 7 days later. Good times.
 

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Not a great perspective for determining size/weight in the picture but your estimate doesn't seem outlandish. There's no mistaking that tail. The tail was what made me sit up and really take notice (aside from the thought of the suicidal deer here being just up ahead). I went home that night and proceeded to have a gallbladder attack and had it removed 7 days later. Good times.
Sorry it worked out that way. :) This cat really looks like a hybrid. That or a cougar which got its tail caught in a gate or something. Bobcats are built with short legs, close to the ground, where their prey lives. Those long legs practically make cougars (and this cat) deer specialists. The cat linked below doesn't really look that different from the one spotted around here. Once again, it's the tail which seems not to fit...

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Sorry it worked out that way. :) This cat really looks like a hybrid. That or a cougar which got its tail caught in a gate or something. Bobcats are built with short legs, close to the ground, where their prey lives. Those long legs practically make cougars (and this cat) deer specialists. The cat linked below doesn't really look that different from the one spotted around here. Once again, it's the tail which seems not to fit...

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My guess would be a young male or a female, assuming it is a cougar (in the original pic). Certainly has the features, but on the smaller side for an adult male. Could the tail have just been at an odd angle or is everyone seeing a short tail?
 

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My guess would be a young male or a female, assuming it is a cougar (in the original pic). Certainly has the features, but on the smaller side for an adult male. Could the tail have just been at an odd angle or is everyone seeing a short tail?
I considered that possibility, that the tail is wrapped away from the camera. Since a similar animal, but with a full length tail, has been reported around the neighborhood, that raises the possibility...
 

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I was driving home at 3am in Wetumpka back about 15 years ago and saw one walk across the road in front of me. It was as long as the front of my car is wide. Was a freaky moment. A friend of mine has also spotted one near Tallassee.

But of course officially there are none down this far south.
 

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I was driving home at 3am in Wetumpka back about 15 years ago and saw one walk across the road in front of me. It was as long as the front of my car is wide. Was a freaky moment. A friend of mine has also spotted one near Tallassee.

But of course officially there are none down this far south.
That could be one wandering up from Florida...
 

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Thought it might be interesting to add this news report. This happened in Idaho, about 30 miles from my niece's house. She has a nine-year old...

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