Link: UT Austin campus protest 'campus carry' law pretty weird, can't make this up........

tidegrandpa said:

http://www.dailytexanonline.com/2016/08/25/first-day-of-classes-begin-with-campus-carry-protests

Glad my girls are out of there.

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...handed out sex toys, which are considered obscene under the Texas Penal Code and University rules...

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Kathryn Howard, an undeclared freshmen, said guns should never be the solution to a problem.

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Tidewater said:

Then again, it might be the solution to a problem, if you see one of these a-holes coming into your school building.

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According to gun rights groups, the new law would prevent such tragedies. But there’s some irony in their choice of the UT shooting as a commemorative occasion. It so happens that many students on the UT campus were armed in 1966, and many of them fired at Whitman, who was ultimately killed by a police officer. Whether civilian gunfire was helpful that day remains a matter of debate.
An oral history of the shooting compiled by Texas journalist Pamela Colloff features several eyewitness accounts of civilians taking up arms.
The South African novelist J. M. Coetzee, then a PhD candidate at UT, was on campus that day. “I hadn’t fully comprehended,” he told Colloff, “that lots of people around me in Austin not only owned guns but had them close at hand and regarded themselves as free to use them.”

https://timeline.com/during-the-nat...d-students-fired-back-43bc18a3ddc3#.l64p1r93y

“It seemed like every other guy had a rifle,” said Ann Major. “There was a sort of cowboy atmosphere, this ‘Let’s get him’ spirit.”
“I don’t know where these vigilantes came from,” said Brenda Bell, “but they took over Parlin Hall and were crashing around, firing guns. There was massive testosterone.”
Another eyewitness described “two guys in white shirts and slacks running across the lawn of the Pi Phi house, hustling up to its porch with rifles at the ready.” Yet another remembered that “students with deer rifles were leaning up against telephone poles, using the pole, which is rather narrow, as their shield. And they were firing like crazy back at the tower.”

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Jon said:

there were plenty of Armed Texans, including students when Charles Whitman climbed into that tower in Austin in 1966, not sure that it helped at all

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tidegrandpa said:

It was the summer semester, August 1st, very few students on campus and he still got 14 or 15. Today about 60,000 kids are there in a fall or spring semester and I think it just might have been a deterrent knowing some of the alpha males are now armed if they choose.

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tidegrandpa said:

Not arguing, just saying I doubt the body count would have been as high. That's TW's point, you can't stop crazy but you can limit the damage.

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Jon said:

nothing deters crazy

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BamaInMo1 said:

To reiterate a point made by others, you cannot stop an idiot from pulling out a gun an shooting people. Chances are, though, that the criminal does not have a permit to carry the weapon anyway. If you have others there who have had training and have a weapon on them you can quite possibly kill two birds with one stone (pun intended), you can possibly prevent even a second victim from being a statistic and you can save the taxpayers a ton of dough by not having to support said idiot for the rest of his life.

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CharminTide said:

After exploring this more, some of those sex toys could definitely be considered weapons.

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Jon said:

there were armed students, including armed combat vets at the community college in Oregon a few years back that did not even get engaged with the gunman there. An account I read years ago stated that one such student, recently returned from Iraq/Afghanistan (can't recall which) said he had neither the time nor the inclination to run towards the shooting to try and help. My thinking is that if the gunman happens to step into the wrong room after the shooting has begun that perhaps an armed student could help but to state that it definitely will help is speculation at best.

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CharminTide said:

After exploring this more, some of those sex toys could definitely be considered weapons.

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92tide said:

those rabbits can be fierce

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