What is the probability the Tide will win another NC this year?

TRU

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Well, the Tide is going into this season ranked #1 once again, and looking for a repeat. And we can safely say that they are the team that is more likely than any other to be hoisting another crystal football next January. But being the favorite is a relative measure. What is the absolute probability that the Tide can pull off another NC this year?

We can calculate this based upon some assumptions and some data from the web. First, I am going to assume that for the Tide to win the NC they must be undefeated or have only one loss. By this, I am assuming that none of the teams selected for the playoff will have more than one loss. I believe that this will cover the vast majority of the likely scenarios that the selection committee will face and their inclinations. No one wants to see a 2 loss team winning the NC, unless there are not enough undefeated or one loss teams to fill out the four team bracket at the end of the season. I very much doubt that the selection committee is going to pick a two loss team over a one loss team for this reason, unless they have no other choice.

The second assumption I am going to make is that the Tide will be favored by an average of 10 points going into every game this year. Of course this will vary from opponent to opponent, but I think that the is generous assumption when averaged over the season, especially including the SEC championship and playoff games, which are likely to have a tighter spread.

Data from the internet says that a 10 point favorite in college ball wins the game 83.4% of the time. If this is the case, the probability that a team favored by 10 points in every game has a 6.8% chance of going undefeated over a 15 game season (12 regular season games, the conference championship and the two playoff games). The same team has a 20% chance of losing one game through the season. So overall, a 10 point favorite has a 26.8% chance of going undefeated or with one loss over the course of the season. So the odds that the Tide will repeat are about 1 in 4 assuming they are favored by an average of 10 in every game. Conversely, the odds are 3 in 4 that they will end up with 2 losses or more.

So...Winning it all requires not only a dominant team, but a lot of luck. CNS job is not an easy one. The odds are almost always going to stacked against him in the long run.
 

tidegrandpa

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Well, the Tide is going into this season ranked #1 once again, and looking for a repeat. And we can safely say that they are the team that is more likely than any other to be hoisting another crystal football next January. But being the favorite is a relative measure. What is the absolute probability that the Tide can pull off another NC this year?

We can calculate this based upon some assumptions and some data from the web. First, I am going to assume that for the Tide to win the NC they must be undefeated or have only one loss. By this, I am assuming that none of the teams selected for the playoff will have more than one loss. I believe that this will cover the vast majority of the likely scenarios that the selection committee will face and their inclinations. No one wants to see a 2 loss team winning the NC, unless there are not enough undefeated or one loss teams to fill out the four team bracket at the end of the season. I very much doubt that the selection committee is going to pick a two loss team over a one loss team for this reason, unless they have no other choice.

The second assumption I am going to make is that the Tide will be favored by an average of 10 points going into every game this year. Of course this will vary from opponent to opponent, but I think that the is generous assumption when averaged over the season, especially including the SEC championship and playoff games, which are likely to have a tighter spread.

Data from the internet says that a 10 point favorite in college ball wins the game 83.4% of the time. If this is the case, the probability that a team favored by 10 points in every game has a 6.8% chance of going undefeated over a 15 game season (12 regular season games, the conference championship and the two playoff games). The same team has a 20% chance of losing one game through the season. So overall, a 10 point favorite has a 26.8% chance of going undefeated or with one loss over the course of the season. So the odds that the Tide will repeat are about 1 in 4 assuming they are favored by an average of 10 in every game. Conversely, the odds are 3 in 4 that they will end up with 2 losses or more.

So...Winning it all requires not only a dominant team, but a lot of luck. CNS job is not an easy one. The odds are almost always going to stacked against him in the long run.
Here's what the money says.......
https://www.sportsbook.ag/sbk/sportsbook4/ncaa-football-betting/ncaaf-championship.sbk
 

CoolBreeze

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Nice post! I want to repeat and I certainly think we can but the odds are most definitely against it. My gut tells me that if we win it all again it will be with us carrying a couple of losses from the regular season into the SECCG.
 

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Defense being a known quantity, we will live or die by the offense. The only teams that we'd possibly have to boat race would be OM and A&M, possibly USC. I don't see OM being that effective against our offense. A&M maybe the dark horse or they could fall apart completely. I'll believe LSU can fire on all cylinders when I see it with Harris. Our toughest slate of back-to-back games are @Arky, @TN and A&M. I don't think Arky will be much of a threat, TN will be wore down playing FL, @UGA, @A&M prior to our game. So if we drop a game or two, I think it's A&M and/or LSU.
 

B1GTide

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To be clear, those are not the odds - betting lines are not really connected to statistical odds at all. Betting lines are only tied to one thing - where the sports book expects that the money bet will land. If Vegas were to set the money line anywhere near the probability of Alabama winning another championship, the money line would be closer to +1500.
 

B1GTide

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BTW, great post @TRU. I feel that Alabama has as good a chance of winning it as any other team in America, and that is really all that you can ask for going into the season. Remember, the vast majority of the teams in the field have no chance at all. Their fans recognize this, but fans and players alike still enjoy their seasons. Enjoy your time on top.
 

TideEngineer08

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BTW, great post @TRU. I feel that Alabama has as good a chance of winning it as any other team in America, and that is really all that you can ask for going into the season. Remember, the vast majority of the teams in the field have no chance at all. Their fans recognize this, but fans and players alike still enjoy their seasons. Enjoy your time on top.
We are in uncharted territory, really. Four out of the last Seven. At some point, it has to level out, doesn't? Hopefully not for a few more years. I think of my dad, who was in his 30s when Coach Bryant and Alabama were at the height of their reign in the 1970s. I am in my 30s now. Growing up, I had to endure the Mikes: DuBose, Shula, Price and of course fRAN. I hope my son doesn't have to endure something quite that bad after we come down off of this high.
 

BAMAfan777

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I think it will be a dark horse this year......not the top 6 or 7 teams that everyone expects. I'm trying to tell myself don't get too addicted to winning, as loses do happen, and it's two or three coin flip games, which almost always determine one of the top team's fate.

Just enjoy each victory, and don't be devastated by each defeat.

It's hard to do, though!
 

CoolBreeze

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There's no way Bama makes the playoffs with 2 losses.
Maybe, but that would open a can of playoff expansion worms that couldn't be silenced. The SEC Champ should always be in a playoff no matter how many losses. Strongest conference=toughest competition and the one who comes out on top could compete with anyone. Just an opinion...
 

colbysullivan

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Maybe, but that would open a can of playoff expansion worms that couldn't be silenced. The SEC Champ should always be in a playoff no matter how many losses. Strongest conference=toughest competition and the one who comes out on top could compete with anyone. Just an opinion...
I agree that the SEC "should" always be in, but the rest of the country doesn't.

The only way I see anyone making the playoffs with 2 losses is if they do it simply to push the case for expansion, which is something I absolutely detest. 4 teams is the perfect number.
 

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