Officiating across college football

tattooguy21 · Sep 18, 2016

I was going to start this last week after the CMU vs OSU game that resulted in the play that shouldn't have happened (hail Mary hook and ladder) for the win.

This thread should be updated throughout the season and we're not talking subjective stuff (pass interference) but straight ref failures (as listed below.) At this point in all the conferences, I'm pretty sure the refs are going to end someones season and possibly a playoff seed. Also, this is for all games watched, not just Bama/sec.

I passed out last night so I didn't get to see it but apparently in the cal vs Texas game a cal player dropped the ball before crossing the line and it was recovered by Texas. The refs reviewed the play and AGREED that the ball was fumbled, but not that Texas recovered it. HOW? WHY?

81usaf92 · Sep 18, 2016

Question...

I was at Oxford and thought ole miss got in when their rb was stopped at the goal line on the play after the review for that long pass was called back because their video board only seemed to show favorable ole miss angles. I'm not complaining at the result of the replay, but was it clear that the rb was down or was it just too hard to overturn?

Snuffy Smith · Sep 18, 2016

81usaf92 said:
Question...

I was at Oxford and thought ole miss got in when their rb was stopped at the goal line on the play after the review for that long pass was called back because their video board only seemed to show favorable ole miss angles. I'm not complaining at the result of the replay, but was it clear that the rb was down or was it just too hard to overturn?

Hard to overturn. No camera angle on where his knee was when he stuck the ball over.

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TrueCrimson7 · Sep 18, 2016

81usaf92 said:
Question...

I was at Oxford and thought ole miss got in when their rb was stopped at the goal line on the play after the review for that long pass was called back because their video board only seemed to show favorable ole miss angles. I'm not complaining at the result of the replay, but was it clear that the rb was down or was it just too hard to overturn?

RB's knee before the ball crossed the goal line. The officials got the reviewable plays correct after review. The ones that did not get called, however....

Snuffy Smith · Sep 18, 2016

TrueCrimson7 said:
RB's knee before the ball crossed the goal line. The officials got the reviewable plays correct after review. The ones that did not get called, however....

The "no calls" on the sack fumble were egregious. I think the SEC office was covering for the fact that they simply missed it by saying he hit him in the chest. Clear helmet to chin. Even with the personal four - how can you catch that and not realize the runner was still at the 20 and call it "after the play"? Even if it was their ball it should have been around the 50.

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bamacpa · Sep 18, 2016

I watched the replay on ESPN. He clearly dropped the ball before scoring, but Horn defenders did not act as if they believed it to be a fumble. A couple ran past the ball, and one casually bent down and picked it up without trying to advance it. Tough call for the refs to say Texas recovered. A good teaching moment for defenders to always hop a loose ball. Refs missed another dropped ball for OU that was ruled a TD.

tattooguy21 said:
I was going to start this last week after the CMU vs OSU game that resulted in the play that shouldn't have happened (hail Mary hook and ladder) for the win.

This thread should be updated throughout the season and we're not talking subjective stuff (pass interference) but straight ref failures (as listed below.) At this point in all the conferences, I'm pretty sure the refs are going to end someones season and possibly a playoff seed. Also, this is for all games watched, not just Bama/sec.

I passed out last night so I didn't get to see it but apparently in the cal vs Texas game a cal player dropped the ball before crossing the line and it was recovered by Texas. The refs reviewed the play and AGREED that the ball was fumbled, but not that Texas recovered it. HOW? WHY?

JBama_in_PCOLA · Sep 18, 2016

TrueCrimson7 said:
RB's knee before the ball crossed the goal line. The officials got the reviewable plays correct after review. The ones that did not get called, however....

Exactly.

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bamanix · Sep 18, 2016

a lot of holding calls not made against miss off line. game has become to fast for the officials. I noticed a lot of lagging coverage as play was downfield. hard to make calls in pileups or goal line plays. will be better as season settles in.

DzynKingRTR · Sep 18, 2016

Snuffy Smith said:
Hard to overturn. No camera angle on where his knee was when he stuck the ball over.

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if they had called it a touchdown, it wouldn't have been overturned.

TIDE-HSV · Sep 18, 2016

I was going to make a separate thread, but I'll put it here. What is this BS about Birmingham "concurring?" Are the reviews really taking place there? Do they have a control room with all the SEC-officiated games playing? I, for one, don't like it. It slows things enough already without the booth officials having to look over their shoulders to see if Shaw agrees. Is the next step for the Commissioner to be the final arbiter?

NationalTitles18 · Sep 18, 2016

bamacpa said:
I watched the replay on ESPN. He clearly dropped the ball before scoring, but Horn defenders did not act as if they believed it to be a fumble. A couple ran past the ball, and one casually bent down and picked it up without trying to advance it. Tough call for the refs to say Texas recovered. A good teaching moment for defenders to always hop a loose ball. Refs missed another dropped ball for OU that was ruled a TD.

So casually recovering a fumble doesn't count?

jthomas666 · Sep 18, 2016

TIDE-HSV said:
I was going to make a separate thread, but I'll put it here. What is this BS about Birmingham "concurring?" Are the reviews really taking place there? Do they have a control room with all the SEC-officiated games playing? I, for one, don't like it. It slows things enough already without the booth officials having to look over their shoulders to see if Shaw agrees. Is the next step for the Commissioner to be the final arbiter?

Don't they have someone at the league office reviewing targeting calls or something like that?

In any event, both calls were botched. The targeting rule clearly states that when in doubt, it's targeting.

jthomas666 · Sep 18, 2016

NationalTitles16 said:
So casually recovering a fumble doesn't count?

If the play is whistled dead after a fumble, any recovery must be a "continuation of the play" or something like that. If the first Texas player had dropped on the ball, they would have gotten it. Since several Horns ran past, they didn't.

MemphisBamaDude · Sep 18, 2016

Yes, there is a "control center" with guys watching all the games. Honestly, if they could get the calls right, I wouldn't mind it taking a little time. But apparently they can't even look at a play in slo-mo and get it right. Awful

Bad Pony · Sep 18, 2016

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...c-commissioner-greg-sankey-new-seat/89722322/

colbysullivan · Sep 18, 2016

I can't forgive the egregious targeting no-call on Jalen. You think the NFL would stand for this crap? Heck no, he would be fined for a hit like that.

To commit TWO penalties on one play and be rewarded with a touchdown simply CANNOT happen. Someone has to be accountable.

TIDE-HSV · Sep 18, 2016

MemphisBamaDude said:
Yes, there is a "control center" with guys watching all the games. Honestly, if they could get the calls right, I wouldn't mind it taking a little time. But apparently they can't even look at a play in slo-mo and get it right. Awful

True. The B'ham position that Hurts was hit in the chest rather than the helmet was laughable...

cindym · Sep 18, 2016

colbysullivan said:
I can't forgive the egregious targeting no-call on Jalen. You think the NFL would stand for this crap? Heck no, he would be fined for a hit like that.

To commit TWO penalties on one play and be rewarded with a touchdown simply CANNOT happen. Someone has to be accountable.

Indeed! Not to mention the fact the old saying the refs shouldn't interfere with the outcome of the game!!!!!! Not only did they do that but it could've cost us the game!! Thank goodness it didnt but Danng they need to do better with the no calls and the phantom calls!!!

JDCrimson · Sep 18, 2016

I think our team is experiencing a sort of hack a shaq phenomenon where due to his size he was almost incapable of being fouled and could easily be called for a foul. I think that is what we are seeing from an officiating standpoint where we are so good other teams have to hold us to make it a game and vice-versa.

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DrollTide · Sep 18, 2016

I suspect that officials "unofficially" try to make up for bad calls. The sack-fumble-TD was two missed personal fouls, one of which was a potential ejection, and they realized that after the fact. It is possible they try to make that up by being a bit generous in later calls. I think perhaps the no-call when Ole Miss RB had the ball over the line with no clear knee down was one of those. I don't think it would have taken a lot of imagination to give OM the TD there.

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