Tom Herman is this year's Justin Fuentes--he's the 'hot coach' that will be on everybody's list when the coaching carousel starts turning in November. I doubt very seriously that he stays in Houston.
Big 12 Expansion Irony
- Thread starter Redwood Forrest
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Ok, for the sake of argument, let's assume:
1 - It is announced that Houston will be admitted into the Big XII.
2 - It is announced that the Big XII will then resume having a conference championship game.
3 - The Houston AD makes it clear that they will want to keep Herman at the helm and will do whatever they can (read engage in a bidding war) to keep him.
4 - The current and future influx of cash from the Big XII conference would enable Houston to pay Herman close to whatever any other school might offer.
Given those conditions, what potential opening do you believe would represent greener pastures to Herman?
LSU is a big name but would that really be a better situation? Financially, LSU wouldn't be able to go over the moon paying him significantly more than Houston. While LSU is in a hotbed of recruiting, so is Houston - and he would have to compete with both SEC teams and Big XII teams, including the newly joined Houston, trying to raid Louisiana for those recruits. Finally, pretty much regardless of how the Big XII decided to structure their divisions, Houston's division would be much less competitive than the SEC West.
Texas A&M? Pretty much the same as LSU except A&M might be able to pay more.
The Barn? That's most likely a worse situation than the first two.
As for outside the SEC, maybe USC if Helton can't turn around this season? It's certainly a blue-blood name and recruiting shouldn't be that difficult. However, the path to the CFP for USC in the PAC 12 is probably more difficult than for Houston in the Big XII.
Without knowing Herman's personal motivations, I don't know how you can say any potential job opening would be more alluring to him than Houston. Maybe he likes the idea of coaching at a traditional power and/or in a stronger conference. Maybe he doesn't care about that and his dream is being an NFL head coach. I don't know.
I agree. If they open up the checkbook and get into the Big XII that's a good gig. He basically needs to beat the Texas schools (UT, Baylor, TCU, TT) to get to the Big 12 title game, which there's no reason to think he can't.
SEC West carries the recruiting prestige of the SEC but it's so stacked you'll be fired after 3-4 years if you can't top Saban which few can. Maybe he'd have a better shot at something special at LSU, but it's definitely a tougher path.
He already has a clause in his contract that immediately ups his pay to like 5 million a year should they get the Big 12 invite.
If Houston gets into the Big 12 their quality of recruiting would automatically get a lot better. Especially seeing where their recruiting base is located. I haven't looked to check but it seemed aTm's recruiting got a pretty decent shot in the arm when moving to the SEC. I would expect the same type thing for Houston. Herman could possibly be sitting on a sleeping giant. From a recruiting standpoint they wouldn't have to leave the Houston area to fill their class with dang good talent.
Not a nice thing to say about your cousin.
Seriously, I don't want to promote someone from G5 to the SEC. The other four additions have all been from major conferences. They didn't have the P5 name back then, but the SWC would have been one. South Carolina was a football Indy, but were in the Metro for the other sports and it was a pretty good league and would have been strong if it had sponsored football.
I think the Gators would block USF if it ever came up.
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Tom Herman is 41, Nick Saban will be 65 in October. Alabama trumps all the school mentioned in this thread. Who knows?
This is part of the reason I've come to suspect that the Big 12 may not expand at all, at least right now. The way their TV contracts work, the payouts to the league increase on a pro rata basis if they expand. So unless the added schools are willing to take a diluted share for the first several years, there isn't any financial incentive to expand. And since the networks are less than thrilled with the crop of expansion candidates, why would they not simply up the payout to the existing 10 schools by an amount less than it cost them in the event two (or four) teams were added? Essentially pay them not to expand, but save money (over the expanded payout) by doing it.
When all is said and done, this whole deal may end up looking like nothing but a shake-down for more cash for a status-quo 10 member Big 12.
When all is said and done, this whole deal may end up looking like nothing but a shake-down for more cash for a status-quo 10 member Big 12.
I think I hurt myself laughing. That whole post was structured so wrong! lol
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It appears Houston is better than any team in the Big 12. The Big 12 is looking like the fools they are by wanting Houston to go to the back of the bus and take less. Hahahaha. Imagine the ACC wanting Notre Dame to take less and to go to the back of the buss when they eventually do join as a full member. Hahahaha.
According to 24/7 rankings aTm averaged #27 the last five years in B12. The next five years in SEC they averaged #12. They more than doubled their talent!
Hope the laughter didn't make you burst something inside.
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Yeah, I'm good. I hope. lol I may have been under the influence.
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