Film Study: How Ole Miss Setup the Evan Engram Touchdown

RTR91 · Sep 23, 2016

JBama_in_PCOLA · Sep 23, 2016

Good set up by Ole Miss. Used Bama's aggressive play against them. Glad Bama rebounded.

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Mystical · Sep 23, 2016

Wow that was excellent. After seeing that it is no wonder he was so wide open.

rgw · Sep 23, 2016

This is interesting because it is definitely a HARD run fake but this was NOT a run-pass option. Why? First, they got the same look from the defense each time. Second, I think the first play was an all-the-way run while the second play was an all-the-way pass given how the WRs were playing on the outside. On the run play, each WR was engaged in their defender. On the pass play, Engram was in a full sprint off the line.

Same kind of "we'll show a bunch of fruitless plays to setup the one that will go for big yards or points" concept from Ole Miss but they showed they aren't all RPO!

TiderMan · Sep 23, 2016

rgw said:
This is interesting because it is definitely a HARD run fake but this was NOT a run-pass option. Why? First, they got the same look from the defense each time. Second, I think the first play was an all-the-way run while the second play was an all-the-way pass given how the WRs were playing on the outside. On the run play, each WR was engaged in their defender. On the pass play, Engram was in a full sprint off the line.

Same kind of "we'll show a bunch of fruitless plays to setup the one that will go for big yards or points" concept from Ole Miss but they showed they aren't all RPO!

Correct. Just bad eye discipline by our DB's on that play. The WR's for Ole Miss was telling you what they were doing. They were not blocking. They were going out for a pass.

VirginiaTide57 · Sep 23, 2016

Wonder how many times they showed that formation during the game? As many times as Alabama tried the jet sweep to set up the off tackle?

Con · Sep 23, 2016

You have to love the chess match of football. There is a reason for everything if the coaches involved are good coaches. Only those who are fly by the seat of their pants kind of catch you off guard, and they aren't successful for long if they are like this.

theballguy · Sep 23, 2016

That's nice. <Yawn>

JBama_in_PCOLA · Sep 23, 2016

Ronnie had a bad day.

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RammerJammer14 · Sep 23, 2016

Con said:
You have to love the chess match of football. There is a reason for everything if the coaches involved are good coaches. Only those who are fly by the seat of their pants kind of catch you off guard, and they aren't successful for long if they are like this.

Cough* Gus * cough

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teamplayer · Sep 23, 2016

JBama_in_PCOLA said:
Good set up by Ole Miss. Used Bama's aggressive play against them. Glad Bama rebounded.

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I kept expecting Georgia Tech to hit Clemson last night with some big plays, but Clemson would get to him before he could throw even when receivers were wide open.

JBama_in_PCOLA · Sep 23, 2016

teamplayer said:
I kept expecting Georgia Tech to hit Clemson last night with some big plays, but Clemson would get to him before he could throw even when receivers were wide open.

Yeah, that was an unimpressive performance by them.

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crimsonaudio · Sep 23, 2016

theballguy said:
That's nice. <Yawn>

You're so disinterested you had to post about your disinterest? Interesting.

teamplayer · Sep 23, 2016

Con said:
You have to love the chess match of football. There is a reason for everything if the coaches involved are good coaches. Only those who are fly by the seat of their pants kind of catch you off guard, and they aren't successful for long if they are like this.

I've always loved running multiple plays out of the same formation. You pay attention to how the other team defends that formation and hit em where it hurts.

crimsonaudio · Sep 23, 2016

teamplayer said:
I kept expecting Georgia Tech to hit Clemson last night with some big plays, but Clemson would get to him before he could throw even when receivers were wide open.

I recall us running the option with Watts and at some point after we had run some options plays, he'd roll out like he was running the option, step back and throw downfield (well, as downfield for Watts... :biggrin2). Was pretty effective, iirc.

Like t the 0:35 mark here:

(some decent video of Fran shellacking Saban there from 2002... haha)

crimsonaudio · Sep 23, 2016

teamplayer said:
I've always loved running multiple plays out of the same formation. You pay attention to how the other team defends that formation and hit em where it hurts.

I've long thought that the ultimate offense (it would require just the right players) would only have 2-3 formations from which you could do almost anything. In the real world it's probably not possible as so many skill players would have to be able to run the ball, catch, and block effectively. That said, I'm not sure Bama couldn't pull it off with the way we've recruited over the last few years.

But imagine an offense lining up and, as a defense, you literally have zero clue as to where the ball is going as film study is useless - the ball can end up anywhere on the field if everyone executes.

RTR91 · Sep 23, 2016

crimsonaudio said:
I've long thought that the ultimate offense (it would require just the right players) would only have 2-3 formations from which you could do almost anything. In the real world it's probably not possible as so many skill players would have to be able to run the ball, catch, and block effectively. That said, I'm not sure Bama couldn't pull it off with the way we've recruited over the last few years.

But imagine an offense lining up and, as a defense, you literally have zero clue as to where the ball is going as film study is useless - the ball can end up anywhere on the field if everyone executes.

Coworker's son was the starting QB for his high school prior to tearing his ACL. In the first week, they ran a total of 6 plays with multiple variations.

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gtowntide · Sep 23, 2016

The barn ran a play out of a similar lineup in the red zone where the TE would act like he fell down at the LOS. Thinking it was a broken play the LB let his guard down and seconds later the TE was in the end zone catching a touchdown.

92tide · Sep 23, 2016

crimsonaudio said:
I recall us running the option with Watts and at some point after we had run some options plays, he'd roll out like he was running the option, step back and throw downfield (well, as downfield for Watts... :biggrin2). Was pretty effective, iirc.

Like t the 0:35 mark here:

(some decent video of Fran shellacking Saban there from 2002... haha)

från sucks. thanks for reminding me

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