Who says it doesn't work both ways. BYU sits in a better situation right now with the power 5 than they do with a super 4. Basically in the power 5 the non power 5s can exist and have slim opportunities to compete. In a super 4 it is almost a given that it will be a 9 conference game schedule with an agreed upon 3 game non conference. 3/5 of the current power 5s have voiced concern with playing FCS opponents so it kinda seems that a super 4 would probably favor a super 4 non conference schedule. So it puts BYU in a position in that they either change their ways or become fcs athletically. I think it will be the straw that breaks the cougar's back. If it doesn't happen then BYU loses a ton of money, and the PAC 12 looks at teams like Hawaii and Fresno st.Your definition of "undoubtedly" must be quite different from the dictionary's. Pac-12 schools strongly and loudly rejected consideration of BYU in their most recent expansion, in large part because of BYU's unapologetically conservative positions on social issues.
I hear you, but after losing Nebraska, Texas A&M, Missouri, and Colorado, this is the Big 12 at this point:I keep reading obituaries for the Big XII and they are still here. Wake me when they really break up.
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Well then we'll call it a drawI hear you, but after losing Nebraska, Texas A&M, Missouri, and Colorado, this is the Big 12 at this point:
This is what I was thinking yesterday. Kansas won't add anything to football, but it would be a great addition for basketball. I just don't know who could be added to bring it to 16, West Virginia maybe?
Cincy and WV seems more like a last line of expansion for the ACC. I think the Big 10 really wants ND, and would even break down and take a financial hit to get Iowa st or Nd st to make 16. The ACC seems to be more on the path of assimilating the old big east so it seems WV and Cincy would be theirs. That leaves the SEC and PAC 12. I think the SEC must go for 16 if super conferences are inevitable, and if west we must go then we probably should get the Kansas schools and let the PAC 12 have Texas, Okahoma, Okie lite, and who cares.Well, what about armPITT you ask?
No one up there cares about Pitt football. It is so wildly popular they moved it to the stadium the Steelers play in. IOW, several miles from the campus. That is if you call a large grouping of urban buildings a campus. Which looks amazing like the CMU/Carnegie Tech campus, as they touch. (The excuse was real estate was put to better use, by tearing down the old Pitt stadium.) Gives people who can't get Steelers tickets a chance to see a game in the real stadium! (A buddy of mine did the sound system there. Nice gig. Too bad he still lives there. He went to Tech. One of his cousins was the head honcho at Pitt's Physics Dept.)
As for a cultural fit: none. OK, long time ago, there was some very limited cross-breeding, when there was this company called US Steel, that actually made steel. Those days are over.
No, another really bad idea.
Ok, Cincy?
Cincy looks just like Pittsburgh, but with houses painted weirder colors. Its only advantage is that it is very close to a lot of UK basketball fans. The first thing that you notice, after crossing the Ohio River, is the large number of vehicles with UK decals and stickers. Won't see a single one, in Ohio, but cross that river.................
I would be interested to know if Notre Dame were forced to join a conference, would they choose the ACC or the Big Ten? They are only attached to the ACC because it was willing to allow them partial membership in order for ND football to remain quasi-independent since the Big East was dropping football.Cincy and WV seems more like a last line of expansion for the ACC. I think the Big 10 really wants ND, and would even break down and take a financial hit to get Iowa st or Nd st to make 16. The ACC seems to be more on the path of assimilating the old big east so it seems WV and Cincy would be theirs. That leaves the SEC and PAC 12. I think the SEC must go for 16 if super conferences are inevitable, and if west we must go then we probably should get the Kansas schools and let the PAC 12 have Texas, Okahoma, Okie lite, and who cares.
The main issue is that the ACC has teams wrapped up for a long time, and most of the best additions for both the SEC and Big 10 are in the ACC. So, I just don't see the Big 10 making a move (unless Texas falls in their lap), I don't see a good addition for the SEC (I think they can stand by and watch the chaos if the Big 12 implodes, they already got what they needed), and the ACC has all their teams behind bars so I think they can wait for something to fall into their lap to (like perhaps a Kansas or Oklahoma).Cincy and WV seems more like a last line of expansion for the ACC. I think the Big 10 really wants ND, and would even break down and take a financial hit to get Iowa st or Nd st to make 16. The ACC seems to be more on the path of assimilating the old big east so it seems WV and Cincy would be theirs. That leaves the SEC and PAC 12. I think the SEC must go for 16 if super conferences are inevitable, and if west we must go then we probably should get the Kansas schools and let the PAC 12 have Texas, Okahoma, Okie lite, and who cares.