News Article: Who is Heather Dinich?
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Little-known fact: He used to be named Herbie Wientjes, with either his born or stage surname sounding suspiciously like...yeah, that's her above.
Haha, wow. It's like she came up with her predictions by reading ESPN the entire offseason.
because Cecil never intended to start a social justice dogpile. He could've said the same thing about Danny Kanell and nobody would've paid attention. He just unintentionally struct a nerve because that national beat writer inner circle has gotten really sensitive to one of their own, Heather Dinich, being attacked often by misogynistic idiots like Finebaum's Jim from Tuscaloosa. Cecil was really questioning her professionalism not that she couldn't have an opinion because she's a woman.
This. Yah, there are actual misogynists out there. It makes it harder for anyone to actually levy poignant criticism against a woman because it all then falls under the blanket of misogyny. Heather is an idiot and my farts carry more weight than her analysis. The exact same goes for Danny Kannel and Skip Bayless.
Someone on this board had comments that the four letter sports network gives talking heads roles to play, like professional wrestling.
The addition of Finebaum to any serious discussion of college football supports that thesis. He is not that smart on football, but he sure knows how to push buttons.
Dinich, bless her heart, is probably a part of that same strategy.
The addition of Finebaum to any serious discussion of college football supports that thesis. He is not that smart on football, but he sure knows how to push buttons.
Dinich, bless her heart, is probably a part of that same strategy.
I feel for Cecil. You cannot be honest in today's media world. 98% of it is driven by people of extremely low intelligence.
Frankly, some of the guys I still had respect for, like Travis Haney and Bruce Feldman, really disappointed me yesterday with their white knight defense of Dinich. And, ironically, THEY proved their own misogyny by rushing to her defense as if she were not capable of defending herself. Cecil never mentioned her sex. They are the ones that took it there.
Frankly, some of the guys I still had respect for, like Travis Haney and Bruce Feldman, really disappointed me yesterday with their white knight defense of Dinich. And, ironically, THEY proved their own misogyny by rushing to her defense as if she were not capable of defending herself. Cecil never mentioned her sex. They are the ones that took it there.
Cecil should've laid his argument on her opinions at the opinions and not what could be perceived as a "below the belt" ad hominem attack. Like I said, there is a certain sensitivity in his journalism circle because she's a highly visible female analyst and has taken a fair amount of criticism that goes straight into the the sexist territory. What he said wasn't going into that territory but it kinda grazed some of the hairline triggers.
Heather Dinich is wrong. I get her argument but like I've shown earlier you could make the same argument against UDub or Clemson. There is a reason OSU is a mortal lock for the playoffs despite not even winning their division: they have the best resume of any team in the nation by a large margin. Everyone else in the top 4 you could make the lame "but who have they really beaten tho?!?!?!" argument.
Heather Dinich is wrong. I get her argument but like I've shown earlier you could make the same argument against UDub or Clemson. There is a reason OSU is a mortal lock for the playoffs despite not even winning their division: they have the best resume of any team in the nation by a large margin. Everyone else in the top 4 you could make the lame "but who have they really beaten tho?!?!?!" argument.
Sad but true, brother.
And even he is now walking it back, in the fact of the feigned indignation at his comment...
The tail is wagging the dog...
I think Bama has as good a resume as OSU. How could you make the lame excuse? And by a large margin? I don't see where you or anyone could make a team a lock for the playoffs just because of what they have done in the past. I agree that OSU is a very good team but it was my understanding that they wanted you to win your conference and only one team from that conference. They didn't want a repeat of the Bama-LSU type championship game. I have no problem who they put in the play off as long as We are in but don't come back next year with a new rule if Bama and say Florida should be counted in the top 4.
I agree but I've never tried to weigh a flatulate. Still, she shouldn't be able to avoid critism just because she's a woman.
OSU has a 3-1 record against top 10 team. They have the best resume by a large margin which is why they're sitting at home this weekend yet likely more of a lock to make the field than anyone.
I know this has been said on his post already but just to reiterate:
Had Cecil said this about a man we wouldn't even have this thread. The other male (and female) sports writers would laugh/giggle about it and keep right on trucking.
No offense to anyone on here (especially of the female gender): If you want to be treated like a man then take the criticism like a man and to the men - if you are so much for "equality" then let the woman defend her own self/record in regards to this criticism.
That having been said - please do not equate this post to say that I think you can hit women and so forth because this is not about that.
Had Cecil said this about a man we wouldn't even have this thread. The other male (and female) sports writers would laugh/giggle about it and keep right on trucking.
No offense to anyone on here (especially of the female gender): If you want to be treated like a man then take the criticism like a man and to the men - if you are so much for "equality" then let the woman defend her own self/record in regards to this criticism.
That having been said - please do not equate this post to say that I think you can hit women and so forth because this is not about that.
I don't think it is about not being able to take legitimate criticism. You probably don't realize the amount of hateful sexist BS she gets hit with all the time on social media. That journalism circle is really sensitive to one of their own providing any ammunition for criticizing her because they know it is just a validation to those who have hate in their heart.
Is that wrong? Yeah. But it isn't because she's being veiled from criticism protection due to being a woman. It is because some people can't behave like decent human beings and go places they shouldn't go therefore the entire sports journalism community - men and women - is protecting her.
Heck, there is some stuff in this topic that kinda crosses my personal line on the matter but I'm not really into censorship and it isn't being directed at her with a twitter @reply.
Is that wrong? Yeah. But it isn't because she's being veiled from criticism protection due to being a woman. It is because some people can't behave like decent human beings and go places they shouldn't go therefore the entire sports journalism community - men and women - is protecting her.
Heck, there is some stuff in this topic that kinda crosses my personal line on the matter but I'm not really into censorship and it isn't being directed at her with a twitter @reply.
I think we've given her enough time on this great site of ours. We have championships to win this weekend.
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RGW (not calling you out because I do respect you and your opinion) :
My whole point about this is that if Cecil said this about a male journalist there would not be the great outcry from people like Clay Travis and such. I'm sure that there are idiots who simply say bad/idiotic stuff about Heather just because they are who they are. There are women who do the same towards men because thy are who they are, too. In or society, though, we (as a PC whole) have gotten totally two faced about this. On the one hand we say we want to treat everyone the same and in an instance like this we don't because where we'll defend one gender we won't defend the other (at least not in the same PC way).
To be fair and give my honest opinion: Heather is not really good at what she does and Cecil is kind of right in what he said. Could he have said it in a better way? Sure he could have and hindsight being 20/20 he likely would if he could do it over. The problem with us analyzing this is that we don't know whether or not Heather has taken pot shots at Cecil and has treid to low blow him before and this may have just been the tipping point.
My whole point about this is that if Cecil said this about a male journalist there would not be the great outcry from people like Clay Travis and such. I'm sure that there are idiots who simply say bad/idiotic stuff about Heather just because they are who they are. There are women who do the same towards men because thy are who they are, too. In or society, though, we (as a PC whole) have gotten totally two faced about this. On the one hand we say we want to treat everyone the same and in an instance like this we don't because where we'll defend one gender we won't defend the other (at least not in the same PC way).
To be fair and give my honest opinion: Heather is not really good at what she does and Cecil is kind of right in what he said. Could he have said it in a better way? Sure he could have and hindsight being 20/20 he likely would if he could do it over. The problem with us analyzing this is that we don't know whether or not Heather has taken pot shots at Cecil and has treid to low blow him before and this may have just been the tipping point.
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