Don't even have the common decency to bother to even ask me if I want to pay for a perfect stranger illnesses, I don't even have enough money to feed my children, but you have forced me against my will to provide my money to strangers for their illnesses. You have taken my money at threat of prison and at the point of a gun. You lied to take my money against my will and at great threat to my freedom and at threat of a gun. You cheated and you cheated my family and have stolen the fruits of MY labor.
This was not a fix, though. This was a bunch of arrogant buffoons making a broken system 20 times worse. This law has screwed over my financial well being, harmed my family and the goals that we had making them damn near impossible any time in the foreseeable future, and on top of it all made the quality of my healthcare experience worse!We do need a larger mandate penalty. The current anemic penalty destroys the risk pool and is a huge contributor to the rising premiums we now see. That's not all the ACA needs, but it's a big one.
No healthcare law is ever going to be passed in perfect form. The idea is pure fantasy. This will always be an iterative legislative process, like every other piece of complex law we have. But the simple reality is that, if one political party doesn't want to patch the failures in order to improve the law, it will never be fixed.
That's very disingenuous. Obamacare has helped millions who were without healthcare before. They were being screwed by the private insurers in a broken system. And say what you want about the failures of the ACA, but it has profoundly helped people below the 200% poverty line afford healthcare.This was not a fix, though. This was a bunch of arrogant buffoons making a broken system 20 times worse. This law has screwed over my financial well being, harmed my family and the goals that we had making them damn near impossible any time in the foreseeable future, and on top of it all made the quality of my healthcare experience worse!
True. But the same thing was happening before the ACA.Love the intellectual dishonesty of people like Gruber. He claims costs have gone down thanks to the 85% who get subsidies. That's not lowering costs; that's shifting costs (onto the backs of taxpayers and future generations).
Agreed. All that has been done is come up with a different Rube Goldberg machine for health care.True. But the same thing was happening before the ACA.
I think the promise was that shouldering the costs of preventative care for indignant populations would be cheaper than shouldering the cost of their emergent care. Which is probably true, but the system isn't functioning exactly as intended right now, which is highlighting other problems.Agreed. All that has been done is come up with a different Rube Goldberg machine for health care.
There's a lot that's wrong with health care and general perception.I think the promise was that shouldering the costs of preventative care for indignant populations would be cheaper than shouldering the cost of their emergent care. Which is probably true, but the system isn't functioning exactly as intended right now, which is highlighting other problems.
This guy is real creep and anybody who swallows his tripe has a screw loose.Conniving and diabolical scheming.Good Lord.....
OT, but speaking of Rube Goldberg machines:Agreed. All that has been done is come up with a different Rube Goldberg machine for health care.
This guy is real creep and anybody who swallows his tripe has a screw loose.Conniving and diabolical scheming.
Ok, I'm not trying to be disingenuous. We had goals as a family that, due to massive premium increases just announced for next year, are effectively ruined.That's very disingenuous. Obamacare has helped millions who were without healthcare before. They were being screwed by the private insurers in a broken system. And say what you want about the failures of the ACA, but it has profoundly helped people below the 200% poverty line afford healthcare.
The compromises to get the law passed, however, have disproportionally hit the middle class, and especially the middle class in rural parts of America, where insurers have pulled out of the marketplaces and competition has stymied. Those are where huge rate increases are being seen. Not in big urban centers where many insurers are actively competing.
The GOP has spent years waging this ideological war against President Obama that has manifested as an active refusal to improve a law that is disproportionally hurting America's middle class. They could have accepted that this law was on the books, upheld by the SCOTUS, and that it has done tremendous good for many people (and it has). They could have then addressed its shortcomings, which it sounds like you (and many others) have experienced. Instead, the GOP has focused entirely on this useless battle to repeal the ACA instead of helping to make it better. It's political theater at its worst, and they are choosing to let Americans suffer instead of doing their job and fixing the obvious gaps in the law.
OK, first, the man tells you HIS story and HE is being disingenuous? Not you for completely dismissing his concerns out of hand? Um...OK...That's very disingenuous. Obamacare has helped millions who were without healthcare before. They were being screwed by the private insurers in a broken system. And say what you want about the failures of the ACA, but it has profoundly helped people below the 200% poverty line afford healthcare.
The compromises to get the law passed, however, have disproportionally hit the middle class, and especially the middle class in rural parts of America, where insurers have pulled out of the marketplaces and competition has stymied. Those are where huge rate increases are being seen. Not in big urban centers where many insurers are actively competing.
The GOP has spent years waging this ideological war against President Obama that has manifested as an active refusal to improve a law that is disproportionally hurting America's middle class. They could have accepted that this law was on the books, upheld by the SCOTUS, and that it has done tremendous good for many people (and it has). They could have then addressed its shortcomings, which it sounds like you (and many others) have experienced. Instead, the GOP has focused entirely on this useless battle to repeal the ACA instead of helping to make it better. It's political theater at its worst, and they are choosing to let Americans suffer instead of doing their job and fixing the obvious gaps in the law.
You are so disingenuous.Been without insurance for years. Would like to have insurance. Family insurance is too costly through my wife's plan. Can't afford monthly premiums currently because the budget is stretched as thin as it can go already (at least until after next year). Meanwhile still getting hit with tax penalty every year that only prolongs how long it will be before I can get insurance or when the penalty gets too high I'm forced to try and pay for insurance that I can't fit in the monthly budget that is still trying to recover from a long stint of being unemployed and underemployed after the housing market crash.
The whole thing has been super affordable for me.