Brando's Comments (Bama not a "basketball" school)
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I can't say that BAMA is anywhere near being a basketball school. But I can say that Brando is a hack who hates Alabama and will say whatever he can to reflect that.
Gottfried didn't struggle here because of Alabama being a football school. It's extremely disingenuous to suggest otherwise, but that is Brando for you.
I can't say that BAMA is anywhere near being a basketball school. But I can say that Brando is a hack who hates Alabama and will say whatever he can to reflect that.
Gottfried didn't struggle here because of Alabama being a football school. It's extremely disingenuous to suggest otherwise, but that is Brando for you.
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I'm old-school. I still consider Florida a Tennis and Golf school.
I'm old-school. I still consider Florida a Tennis and Golf school.
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Here are a few things to consider....
The Big 10 schools get early season basketball support because of their football schedule. Up until this year and the recent conference expansion, the Big 10 football season ended a week prior to the SEC's regular season, not to mention the SECCG. It'll be interesting to see how that changes with their new football schedule.
Duke and North Carolina are similar situations. Neither football program has meaningful games in late November. Plus, neither fan base supports the football teams all that much, nor do the fan bases give the support for the football teams in October or November.
In regards to what Alabama needs to do to get more support - I'm not sure.
More exciting games earlier in the season (Georgetown and Okie State had very good crowds in December)?
One thing that my brother and I discussed when talking about it earlier is the time in regards to the school year. The season started off in early November. Then, the team takes off for a tournament in the middle of the year most years (this year to Puerto Rico). When the team got back this year to play home games, it was time for Thanksgiving and the students go home. Bama had 3 games before Christmas break, and one was on the road.
The schedule can't be fixed. That is something the coaches have to work with. It's not something that can be fixed.
Another thing as a way to cause some hype for the basketball program would be a Midnight Madness type deal. Anyone think that would work?
Here are a few things to consider....
The Big 10 schools get early season basketball support because of their football schedule. Up until this year and the recent conference expansion, the Big 10 football season ended a week prior to the SEC's regular season, not to mention the SECCG. It'll be interesting to see how that changes with their new football schedule.
Duke and North Carolina are similar situations. Neither football program has meaningful games in late November. Plus, neither fan base supports the football teams all that much, nor do the fan bases give the support for the football teams in October or November.
In regards to what Alabama needs to do to get more support - I'm not sure.
More exciting games earlier in the season (Georgetown and Okie State had very good crowds in December)?
One thing that my brother and I discussed when talking about it earlier is the time in regards to the school year. The season started off in early November. Then, the team takes off for a tournament in the middle of the year most years (this year to Puerto Rico). When the team got back this year to play home games, it was time for Thanksgiving and the students go home. Bama had 3 games before Christmas break, and one was on the road.
The schedule can't be fixed. That is something the coaches have to work with. It's not something that can be fixed.
Another thing as a way to cause some hype for the basketball program would be a Midnight Madness type deal. Anyone think that would work?
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I don't know. I went to HS in Arky and in Illinois. Arky had bigtime Football and Basketball support at the local levels, same in Illinois.
I don't know. I went to HS in Arky and in Illinois. Arky had bigtime Football and Basketball support at the local levels, same in Illinois.
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Gottfried tried a version of the MM approach with his early alumni reunions. Not sure why he stopped them but they only lasted a couple of years. As I recall they were a big hit.
Gottfried tried a version of the MM approach with his early alumni reunions. Not sure why he stopped them but they only lasted a couple of years. As I recall they were a big hit.
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Doesn't basketball practice start the third Saturday in October? Bama fans are usually a little distracted that day.
Doesn't basketball practice start the third Saturday in October? Bama fans are usually a little distracted that day.
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This statement is what makes people say Alabama is a football school and fans only care about football.
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Well I have enjoyed reading this thread. But it is still quite simple, win some basketball championships and several things fall in place (sell out attendance, multi-sport respect, etc). Our football program is consistent, decade after decade. Same has to happen for basketball. I love Tide basketball when we are competitive. RTR
Well I have enjoyed reading this thread. But it is still quite simple, win some basketball championships and several things fall in place (sell out attendance, multi-sport respect, etc). Our football program is consistent, decade after decade. Same has to happen for basketball. I love Tide basketball when we are competitive. RTR
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Alabama is a football school, but fans don't only care about football they just care more about football than anything else. Every school is going to have one thing that they are more attached to, it's not a bad thing.
If the basketball team gets to where we all want it to be then the coliseum will be filled up for conference games and will probably be more excited.
Alabama is a football school, but fans don't only care about football they just care more about football than anything else. Every school is going to have one thing that they are more attached to, it's not a bad thing.
If the basketball team gets to where we all want it to be then the coliseum will be filled up for conference games and will probably be more excited.
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The problem is that the Basketball team needs the support to get to where you want it to be!
The problem is that the Basketball team needs the support to get to where you want it to be!
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This is the answer...
In order to get the basketball team to the wanted level, we need the support now. I mentioned in my first post that my brother and I discussed the topic earlier. During the talk, he used the phrase "which came first the chicken or the egg?" What comes first with our basketball program's support and success? The supporters are going to say they want success before major supporting; the coaches and administrators will say the support is needed for the success.
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Forgive me for caring more about the Bama-UT game than the start of basketball practice.
I was more interested in the Creighton game than I was the start of spring football drills if that makes you feel better.
Forgive me for caring more about the Bama-UT game than the start of basketball practice.
I was more interested in the Creighton game than I was the start of spring football drills if that makes you feel better.
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If Bama schedules big games and wins, they will get the fan support. That is a simple answer, but it has some substance. CAG has put a product on the floor that people tend to pull for here. We have big stretches of defensive dominance and we at Bama love defense. We play pretty sound fundamentals especially when we think back to the CMG days of not being able to inbound the ball or break a press. And, the team hustles added along with CAG unwillingness to put up with "junk" on the team. Plus, I think we played this year as the 5th youngest squad in America. Meaning the program has a bright future.
Not with that said, there are those in Bham (I live here) who talk about selling basketball to the masses. Let's take Joe Dean Jr or Kevin Scarbinsky as examples. Both talk about basketball needing to grow in popularity and the need for it to be "sold". Well these 2 morons don't realize that the way to sale basketball in this state is not to make snide (sp) or backhanded comments toward Bama. No disrespect (ok, maybe some) but you are not going to build basketball in this state with BSC or Auburn or South AL. UAB? Not with the stunt that the late Gene Bartow pulled in the 80s (BTW UAB fans, you were getting players from Memphis, sound familiar? How do you think you got them?) nor with the idiotic statements by Oliver Robinson this week. Hey Oliver, when UAB was playing before all those people at the BJCC, the majority of them were Crimson and White fans and the pettiness that makes AU look mature drove many of them away. If basketball is going to grow and be sold, there is one bandwagon to get on because it has a marketable name. If Bama is not good in basketball, the game will not have popularity anymore in this state.
If Bama schedules big games and wins, they will get the fan support. That is a simple answer, but it has some substance. CAG has put a product on the floor that people tend to pull for here. We have big stretches of defensive dominance and we at Bama love defense. We play pretty sound fundamentals especially when we think back to the CMG days of not being able to inbound the ball or break a press. And, the team hustles added along with CAG unwillingness to put up with "junk" on the team. Plus, I think we played this year as the 5th youngest squad in America. Meaning the program has a bright future.
Not with that said, there are those in Bham (I live here) who talk about selling basketball to the masses. Let's take Joe Dean Jr or Kevin Scarbinsky as examples. Both talk about basketball needing to grow in popularity and the need for it to be "sold". Well these 2 morons don't realize that the way to sale basketball in this state is not to make snide (sp) or backhanded comments toward Bama. No disrespect (ok, maybe some) but you are not going to build basketball in this state with BSC or Auburn or South AL. UAB? Not with the stunt that the late Gene Bartow pulled in the 80s (BTW UAB fans, you were getting players from Memphis, sound familiar? How do you think you got them?) nor with the idiotic statements by Oliver Robinson this week. Hey Oliver, when UAB was playing before all those people at the BJCC, the majority of them were Crimson and White fans and the pettiness that makes AU look mature drove many of them away. If basketball is going to grow and be sold, there is one bandwagon to get on because it has a marketable name. If Bama is not good in basketball, the game will not have popularity anymore in this state.
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I think we are progressing to a point that support is almost demanded under CAG....
Finished 18 - 14 before CAG's first year.
1st year - 17 -15
2nd year - 25 - 12 (SEC West Champions - Runner-up NIT)
3rd Year - 21 - 12 ( NCAA Tourney Birth)
I guess we need to win a National Championship before support happens?
I think we are progressing to a point that support is almost demanded under CAG....
Finished 18 - 14 before CAG's first year.
1st year - 17 -15
2nd year - 25 - 12 (SEC West Champions - Runner-up NIT)
3rd Year - 21 - 12 ( NCAA Tourney Birth)
I guess we need to win a National Championship before support happens?
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I'm the same way when it comes to early basketball practice. I keep up with some of it but focus on football. What I was meaning is that your statement is exactly what folks point to and say "See Alabama is a football school and don't care about basketball." Is it right? Not really, but that's how it is.
Some say the program will get the support when it reaches multiple Final Fours. The problem with statements like that is there are so many variables in making it to the Final Four - seeding, who you play, how good of a team you are. Fan support cannot be dependent on how many Final Fours this program makes.
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Sorry, didn't get your meaning and took it personal.
But we are a football school and nothing is going to change that even if Grant wins ten national championships.
If you eliminate postseason games, both this year and last year finished 21-11 and both won the Western Division. I know there were no divisions this year, but we had the same schedule as last year and had the best record among division teams.
Both luck and seeding plays a huge role in the postseason. Suppose we had been a #10 seed and beat our first opponent. And suppose we were in one of the regions where a #2 had lost their first game. Suddenly we are facing a #15 seed to go to the Sweet 16.
Speaking of UAB, I was reading their board today and someone said if not for them, Bama wouldn't have all their NCAA appearances. I guess he never heard of C.M. Newton and the success he had in the early 1970s. Perhaps if not for Newton, they wouldn't have felt a basketball program would thrive in this state and wouldn't have started one up.
Sorry, didn't get your meaning and took it personal.
But we are a football school and nothing is going to change that even if Grant wins ten national championships.
If you eliminate postseason games, both this year and last year finished 21-11 and both won the Western Division. I know there were no divisions this year, but we had the same schedule as last year and had the best record among division teams.
Both luck and seeding plays a huge role in the postseason. Suppose we had been a #10 seed and beat our first opponent. And suppose we were in one of the regions where a #2 had lost their first game. Suddenly we are facing a #15 seed to go to the Sweet 16.
Speaking of UAB, I was reading their board today and someone said if not for them, Bama wouldn't have all their NCAA appearances. I guess he never heard of C.M. Newton and the success he had in the early 1970s. Perhaps if not for Newton, they wouldn't have felt a basketball program would thrive in this state and wouldn't have started one up.
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We need to really work harder to keep our talent in state. Doing so would likely generate more base level support for the program. How support would we have if we had somehow had managed to recruit Cousins and Bledsoe to Town?
We need to really work harder to keep our talent in state. Doing so would likely generate more base level support for the program. How support would we have if we had somehow had managed to recruit Cousins and Bledsoe to Town?
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Florida BBall support is still pathetic considering they've won 2 National Championships within the last 7 years. They couldn't even sell out an early season home game against Florida State this past season. Could you imagine a Duke/UNC game not selling out? But then again, Florida fans wear jorts, so....
The Florida fanbase is probably an extreme example, they're a strange bunch. I don't know what it will take to get us to care about basketball more. I would say we're in the top 5 schools within the SEC as far as program support. I think just making the NCAA Tourny on a regular basis helps fill the seats, and being ranked in the top 25 on a consistent basis helps fill the seats. I don't think we've got that far to go to reach either of those goals.
Florida BBall support is still pathetic considering they've won 2 National Championships within the last 7 years. They couldn't even sell out an early season home game against Florida State this past season. Could you imagine a Duke/UNC game not selling out? But then again, Florida fans wear jorts, so....
The Florida fanbase is probably an extreme example, they're a strange bunch. I don't know what it will take to get us to care about basketball more. I would say we're in the top 5 schools within the SEC as far as program support. I think just making the NCAA Tourny on a regular basis helps fill the seats, and being ranked in the top 25 on a consistent basis helps fill the seats. I don't think we've got that far to go to reach either of those goals.
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