Today is the 50th Anniversary since JFK was murdered in Dallas
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No, because JFK, RFK, and MLK, all had a thing for getting a lot of strange from white women, there is your connection.
Yeah I've heard that. But Harding didn't live during a self-absorbed narcissist Baby Boom generation that thinks the world was all nice & innocent until "they" killed "our" President.
Believe it or not - Lee Harvey Oswald didn't start the fire.
The Carcano isn't a musket. And he was scoped. And that round is light enough to get back on pretty quick. Not fish in a barrel, but in that ballpark.
I don't know what the truth is and believe most conspiracy theories are bunk but here is a piece of info I had not learned before today:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=251574DF5EA19742799D251574DF5EA19742799D
Interesting.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=251574DF5EA19742799D251574DF5EA19742799D
Interesting.
My main problems with the LHO theory.
1. The validity of the "Single Bullet" theory and all the associated factors like the pristine bullet found in the stretcher at Parkland.
2. The autopsy. There's a lot about that. Pathologists were not experienced at doing autopsies. Chief pathologist missed the throat wound for instance. There's more about it.
3. Emergency room doctors who treated Kennedy press conference indicating the throat wound was an entrance wound on the day of the assassination.
4. The Warren Commission and how they conducted their investigation incising their report.
5. Jack Ruby.
6. The events that occurred during Kennedy's tenure in office.
Not only was the bullet NOT pristine, but the fact that the bullet was found on the stretcher in the minutes after the shooting proves conclusively there was no conspiracy. Do you really think the guys who were instigating this conspiracy were:
1) crazy enough to hang around a hosptial in that ruckus and possibly get caught putting the bullet on the stretcher
2) dumb enough to put a pristine one on a stretcher (doesn't common sense dictate you put a DAMAGED bullet on the stretcher if you're trying to fool folks)
3) willing to risk exposing the conspiracy when they didn't know what an investigation was going to show
The autopsy is not the world's best. How exactly this overturns Oswald doing the shooting is something I've never understood - unless you are alleging the autopsy photos are also fake (e.g. the Robert Groden hypothesis)
ER doctors triage and stabilize patients. They do not get bogged down in the details of forensic pathology. They may have thought that at the time but more sober evaluation proves otherwise. The fact some guys got some stuff on TV wrong doesn't alter the forensics.
Could they have done a better job? Sure. I surmise that had there not been a Presidential election in 1964 their investigation would have taken longer and been more detailed. And it still would have come to the same conclusion.
Now as famous as Oswald, forever bound to him in history. But if you want to say Ruby was supposed to silence Oswald, you have to come up with a plausible reason why he didn't on Friday night when he was there acting as if he was a reporter.
But those are irrelevant. Even assuming group A or B wanted a President dead, the acting upon it is not going to happen. The notion that JFK is the only President in history who upset the applecart of some powerful people is ridiculous.
How would knowing the so-called "mililtary industrial complex" wanted a guy dead materially alter the fact Oswald did the shooting? It's not like we have proof he sat in on meetings with high-level millitary brass or weapon making stockholders.
Ever seen the x-ray of Connally's wrist? There were a lot of bullet fragments still embedded in him. To me it seems there is more metal in his wrist than is missing from the bullet. And you do know that one of the men who found the bullet on the gurney, Parkland personnel director O.P. Wright, refused to identify the bullet held by the Warren Commission as the one he found at Parkland? The one he found was pointed, the one in the National Archives is rounded.
It was the autopsy for the sitting President of the United States, it should have been the worlds best.
He was attended to by Dr. Perry, an Associate Professor of Surgery at UT Southwestern, Dr. Baxter, Associate Professor of Surgery, and Dr. Kemp Clark, Professor of Neurosurgery and the chairman of that department. More than just the normal ER doc's.
Again, the death, by violence, of the sitting President of the United States. It should have been a better effort.
It is funny how many recent stories call Ruby a business man from Chicago, despite the fact he had lived and worked in Dallas since 1947. He was more than a business man. A big hint would be that one of his best friends here in Dallas was "Fat Joe" Campisi. Have you learned enough Dallas history to know what Fat Joe did for a living?
I am also starting a conspiracy for Hinkley and Reagan. There is just no way one nut job could do it. and for jodie foster? they expect us to believe this?
Today has been somewhat surreal for me. I may not easily remember what I had for dinner yesterday but remember 11/22/63 like it was today. JFK was originally elected on my birthday 11/8. My parents were Nixon supporters so as a young teenager it was upsetting when Kennedy defeated Nixon. Regardless, it was horrible hearing the the POTUS was assassinated. The principal of my school made an announcement over the speakers at 2PM EST that "our president has been shot in Dallas". 1st thought was what was our president (of the student body) doing in Dallas.:conf2: Soon realized that it was Kennedy and all sorts of rumors were flying. LBJ was hit also, LBJ did it, Russians were behind it, Castro was behind it etc. Was glued to TV and watched live as Ruby murdered Oswald.
Oswald got lucky, one shot missed, one shot hit but not lethal, last shot was on his mark.
Oswald got lucky, one shot missed, one shot hit but not lethal, last shot was on his mark.
Might as well add LBJ to that list. It's pretty well documented that he hated the Kennedys.
Wasn't Hinkley originally from the Dallas area. Didn't he attend high school in the Dallas area and wasn't he a student at Texas Tech? Does that mean that Dallas has a bunch of nuts?
I really don't think he had anything to do with it but I don't think he liked being Vice President because he had no powers or influence like he had had in the Senate.
I would say he is one of my least favorite presidents. I don't think I would have liked him as a person either.
Should J. Edgar Hoover be on that list as well?
With the tragic death of the President, I think it kick started the Vietnam conflict. LBJ signed off on it not even five days after JFK was shot. Got to love 'Merica!
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He grew up in the Dallas area and went to Highland Park High School and attended Tech.
Plenty of nuts here. It is a big state with lots of people. Simple percentages will give you more nuts than most other states.
Recorded press conference with emergency room doctors at Parkland the day of the shooting stating the throat wound was an entry wound. They testified to the Warren Commission that it was an exit wound. Dallas officials stated that removing Kennedy's body from Texas before autopsy was illegal under Texas law. Feds moved it anyway. Autopsy at Bethesda was conducted by pathologists who had very little experience in conducting autopsies. They were upper level administrators at Bethesda. After completing the autopsy on Friday, the had pathologist called the emergency room doctors the next day. To his chagrin they had totally missed the throat wound on Kennedy as it was impossible for them to re-examine. Throat wound was hidden by a tracheotomy which gives even more credence that the throat wound was an entry wound. Anyway head doctor conducting autopsy burned his notes and autopsy report and created a new report including the throat wound that he never examined. All kinds of military brass overseeing the autopsy. Enough to cast at least some doubt?
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