Paterno to get his 111 vacated wins restored

CHATTBRIT

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It was inevitable. Penn State is in the Big 10/11/12 whatever. Ohio State with institutional wrongdoing by Tressel (telling NCAA that all was well with his program when he knew good and well about tattoo-gate) got a slap on the wrist. If either team had been in any other conference than the Big 10, then they would have been talking about the death penalty. Just sayin'
 

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What advantage did it give them on the field??? Don't think of me heartless because I truly think is horrid and there should be a lot more people than Sandusky. To be honest the guy that is getting away with a crime is mcquery. But no one says it like that, people label him a hero, but forget that he withheld that evidence for many years because he did not know what to do. Idk about you but I can't find a sensible reason to not immediately call the police or do it immediately after kicking sanduskys corpse and saving the kid.
How many top recruits would have lined up to go to Pederasty U? Keeping knowledge away from the public kept them from suffering a major recruiting disadvantage.
 

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I think the University of Alabama needs to inform the NCAA that we just restored our own wins based on the JoePa decision fairness doctrine.

If they don't like it, they can kiss us where the sun doesn't shine on most days!
Love this idea!!
 

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Living in the middle of Penn State country I hear from a lot of people who are glad he got his wins back. Personally I think that issue should still be on hold. I don't think we still know yet whether or not a meeting ever took place between Curley and Paterno in which Curley stated that Paterno talked him (Curley) and Spanier out of reporting Sandusky to authorities. Some say that taking his wins away is bad policy, but the counter argument is " How else do you punish a coach who is no longer alive?" Regardless of how many wins people think Paterno should or shouldn't have, one fact remains the same. 0-4 vs. Coach Bryant.
 

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I really don't care about Paterno... IT is what it is... I"m sorry about the victims and what happened to them... but IF that's what they decided... so be it. We got season to look forward to..
 

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How many top recruits would have lined up to go to Pederasty U? Keeping knowledge away from the public kept them from suffering a major recruiting disadvantage.
There is no way of proving that. Because you are basically saying they would've done the right thing and stopped it years ago. That would drastically change the outlook on this situation. Yes psu would catch fire, but paternos legacy wouldn't be tainted. More or less in that scenario Sandusky would probably be the only bad guy and the school wouldn't be as much at fault.
 

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Living in the middle of Penn State country I hear from a lot of people who are glad he got his wins back. Personally I think that issue should still be on hold. I don't think we still know yet whether or not a meeting ever took place between Curley and Paterno in which Curley stated that Paterno talked him (Curley) and Spanier out of reporting Sandusky to authorities. Some say that taking his wins away is bad policy, but the counter argument is " How else do you punish a coach who is no longer alive?" Regardless of how many wins people think Paterno should or shouldn't have, one fact remains the same. 0-4 vs. Coach Bryant.
Don't forget who his last loss was to.


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His last loss was to Kevin Sumlin.
No, Paterno was fired during the season on Nov. 9 2011. Tom Bradley was the coach when they played Houston. Paterno's last loss was to Coach Saban. As it turned both Paterno and Coach Bryant coached their final game against the same team, Illinois.
 

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Disgrace if you ask me. Penn State shouldn't be playing football ever again. If football becomes more important than the welfare of kids at that campus, something is wrong.
 

Ldlane

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Disgrace if you ask me. Penn State shouldn't be playing football ever again. If football becomes more important than the welfare of kids at that campus, something is wrong.
No, the University provides educational opportunity for the students and people of Pennsylvania. Sometimes "opportunity" comes in the form of Athletics. The people involved should be punished. Penn St. existed before Joe Pa and should after he is gone. You don't punish people that were not involved because of misguided actions or "non-actions" of people that were the cause. People slay me with there extremist viewpoints built on a "morality" of perception. That opportunity for others should be there despite what happened.

I personally can't wait until the Nittany Lions are competitive again so we can go to Happy Valley and roll over them!
 
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No, the University provides educational opportunity for the students and people of Pennsylvania. Sometimes "opportunity" comes in the form of Athletics. The people involved should be punished. Penn St. existed before Joe Pa and should after he is gone. You don't punish people that were not involved because of misguided actions or "non-actions" of people that were the cause. People slay me with there extremist viewpoints built on a "morality" of perception. That opportunity for others should be there despite what happened
I respectfully disagree. One of the reasons that we see students victimized and no action taken by universities is because the schools themselves are never held accountable. If the employees for a large corporation were to behave like this, the entire company would face huge consequences. Many companies have been put out of business, so heavy were the fines and suit reparations. This even though the innocent employees of those companies would be put out on the street, jobless.

There are many schools out there. PA does not need PSU as much as it needs a safe environment for advanced education. Anyone who believes that their children are safe at a school like PSU or FSU is being willfully ignorant.
 

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I respectfully disagree. One of the reasons that we see students victimized and no action taken by universities is because the schools themselves are never held accountable. If the employees for a large corporation were to behave like this, the entire company would face huge consequences. Many companies have been put out of business, so heavy were the fines and suit reparations. This even though the innocent employees of those companies would be put out on the street, jobless.

There are many schools out there. PA does not need PSU as much as it needs a safe environment for advanced education. Anyone who believes that their children are safe at a school like PSU or FSU is being willfully ignorant.
OK, fine them, indict them, whatever but the idea of vacating wins totally misses the target in this (and many) cases.
 

Ldlane

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I respectfully disagree. One of the reasons that we see students victimized and no action taken by universities is because the schools themselves are never held accountable. If the employees for a large corporation were to behave like this, the entire company would face huge consequences. Many companies have been put out of business, so heavy were the fines and suit reparations. This even though the innocent employees of those companies would be put out on the street, jobless.

There are many schools out there. PA does not need PSU as much as it needs a safe environment for advanced education. Anyone who believes that their children are safe at a school like PSU or FSU is being willfully ignorant.
Good reply, but I think it's about punishing the people responsible and not the one's who had nothing to do with it.
 

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OK, fine them, indict them, whatever but the idea of vacating wins totally misses the target in this (and many) cases.
Like I said earlier - I don't care about the wins. This is not a football issue. Let a dead Paterno keep his wins. Shut down PSU.
 

B1GTide

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Good reply, but I think it's about punishing the people responsible and not the one's who had nothing to do with it.
The people are sometimes not just people. In situations like this, they are the institution itself.

ETA - Understand that they did not cover this up to protect themselves. They acted in the interests of the institution, not themselves.
 

Ldlane

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The people are sometimes not just people. In situations like this, they are the institution itself.

ETA - Understand that they did not cover this up to protect themselves. They acted in the interests of the institution, not themselves.
We will have to agree to disagree. They were misguided in their actions on behalf of the institution and should be punished. Not the local economy of Happy Valley or student athletes that had nothing to do with their actions. "Institutional Prejudice" is practiced everyday by people, yet I'm sure you will agree that "all" shouldn't be punished by the actions of a few.
 

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Good reply, but I think it's about punishing the people responsible and not the one's who had nothing to do with it.
Would you also keep criminals out of prison because their sentence punishes their families?