First Playoff Poll Released (predictions - first 5 pages; analysis - page 6 - ???)

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I didn't do the entire 25, but my best guess for the top 12:

1. Ohio St
2. TCU
3. LSU
4. Clemson
5. Baylor
6. Mich St.
7. Alabama
8. Iowa
9. ND
10. Florida
11. Stanford
12. OSU
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

My prediction: Fans will be outraged over a list of teams that will change numerous times since there are at least 8 games that are essentially elimination games.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

1. Ohio State
2. TCU
3. Baylor
4. LSU
5. Clemson
6. Mich State
7. Bama
8. Stanford
9. Iowa
10. Florida

Bad news? We will be 7th
Good news? Ohio State vs Mich State, Baylor vs TCU, Bama vs LSU....
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

I didn't do the entire 25, but my best guess for the top 12:

1. Ohio St
2. TCU
3. LSU
4. Clemson
5. Baylor
6. Mich St.
7. Alabama
8. Iowa
9. ND
10. Florida
11. Stanford
12. OSU
1.Mich. St. will beat Ohio St.
2.Baylor will beat TCU
3.Bama will beat LSU
4.FSU will beat Clemson
That my friends will put Bama at #3. We should be rested and raring to go and beat LSU, Miss. St., Aubrun, Florida, Mich. St. and Baylor to be crowned NC. Whew!
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

I didn't do the entire 25, but my best guess for the top 12:

1. Ohio St
2. TCU
3. LSU
4. Clemson
5. Baylor
6. Mich St.
7. Alabama
8. Iowa
9. ND
10. Florida
11. Stanford
12. OSU

This is probably pretty close. I'd move Baylor to #7 (schedule strength) and slide MSU and Bama up one.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

1. Ohio State
2. TCU
3. Baylor
4. LSU
5. Clemson
6. Mich State
7. Bama
8. Stanford
9. Iowa
10. Florida

Bad news? We will be 7th
Good news? Ohio State vs Mich State, Baylor vs TCU, Bama vs LSU....

I like that. You gotta earn it else it means nothing. Roll Tide Roll!!! I am looking forward to this game so much.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

Boards not working very well for me today. Would let me quote you RTR but I agree LOL.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

Only 2 teams matter to me in this poll - OSU and Alabama. I expect the Buckeyes to be in the top 4, and I expect Alabama to be outside looking to get in if they keep winning. Really, I don't care who else makes it.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

1) Dot that "I"
2) That other South Carolina team
3) Whoville
4) Da Bares
5) Horny Toads
6) This is Sparta!
7) Mr. COBB!
Yes, sir?
You're aware of the name of this ship, aren't you Mr. COBB?
Very aware, sir!
It bears a proud name, doesn't it, Mr. COBB?
Very proud, sir!
It represents fine people.
Very fine people, sir!
Who live in a fine, outstanding state.
Outstanding, sir!
In the greatest country in the entire world.
In the entire world, sir!
And what is that name, Mr. COBB?
Alabama, sir!
And what do we say?
Go Bama!
Roll Tide!

8) The Sequoias
9) Benjamin Franklin Pierces
10) Cousins of the Crocs
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

I truly believe if we win out we are in. LSU (#3), Miss. St. (who is quietly having a good year), and auburn. Our resume is really impressive. With that said if ole miss will do us a favor and lose like we did them when we played them (ie turnovers) then there is no doubt. I like the latter senerio better
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

Not that it'll happen, but Clemson has the best resume right now. Followed by LSU.

I think Bama could be #6.

I'd rank 'em like this:

1. Clemson
2. LSU
3. OSU
4. Baylor
5. TCU
6. Bama
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

Thinking about the way they ran the poll last year, they will not put Alabama ahead of any P5 undefeated teams. They will hedge their bets in case those teams win out. I just wonder how they will treat teams like Memphis, who beat ole Miss, who beat Alabama.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

Here's my prediction:

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[TD]FPI Rank[/TD]
[TD]S&P+ Rank[/TD]
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[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Notre Dame[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
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[TD]LSU[/TD]
[TD]7-0[/TD]
[TD]2-0[/TD]
[TD]38[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Florida[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
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[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Ohio State[/TD]
[TD]8-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]59[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Penn State[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
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[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Baylor[/TD]
[TD]7-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]112[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]West Virginia[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]TCU[/TD]
[TD]8-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]79[/TD]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]West Virginia[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Michigan State[/TD]
[TD]8-0[/TD]
[TD]1-0[/TD]
[TD]27[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]23[/TD]
[TD]Michigan[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Florida[/TD]
[TD]7-1[/TD]
[TD]1-1[/TD]
[TD]33[/TD]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Ole Miss[/TD]
[TD]LSU[/TD]
[TD]LSU[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Iowa[/TD]
[TD]8-0[/TD]
[TD]0-0[/TD]
[TD]19[/TD]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]29[/TD]
[TD]16[/TD]
[TD]Wisconsin[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Notre Dame[/TD]
[TD]7-1[/TD]
[TD]1-1[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Temple[/TD]
[TD]Clemson[/TD]
[TD]Clemson[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Alabama[/TD]
[TD]7-1[/TD]
[TD]1-1[/TD]
[TD]31[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Wisconsin[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11[/TD]
[TD]Utah[/TD]
[TD]7-1[/TD]
[TD]1-0[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]20[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]Michigan[/TD]
[TD]USC[/TD]
[TD]USC[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12[/TD]
[TD]Stanford[/TD]
[TD]7-1[/TD]
[TD]1-0[/TD]
[TD]54[/TD]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]UCLA[/TD]
[TD]Northwestern[/TD]
[TD]Northwestern[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]Memphis[/TD]
[TD]8-0[/TD]
[TD]1-0[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[TD]15[/TD]
[TD]36[/TD]
[TD]34[/TD]
[TD]Ole Miss[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[TD]N/A[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


I think, at this point, that the most important factors the committee will be considering will be:
1. Record combined with SoS
2. Best Win(s).
3. Best & Worst Loss.
4. Other rankings.

Note: The Strength of Schedule listed here is purely a combination of Opponents' Win % combined with Opponents' Opponents' Win %.

At this point in the season, neither Ohio State, TCU, nor Baylor have any true, quality wins to write home about - with Baylor and TCU sharing their best win against a 3-4 team.

Clemson and LSU have, by far, the best wins. Florida and Notre Dame have the best losses, while Stanford clearly has the worst loss.


This week's slate of games looks to have a decent effect on next week's rankings, with:
Florida State at Clemson
Arkansas at Ole Miss
TCU at Oklahoma State
Navy at Memphis
LSU at Alabama

All of these games have a chance to either immediately and/or in the near future directly affect the statistical and perceived strength of various top teams. Clemson will either solidify its hold on a top spot or drop a few spots. Arkansas winning, while it potentially could drastically help Alabama in the SEC West race, would drop Ole Miss from the rankings and make Bama's loss look worse. TCU will either leapfrog Baylor and/or Ohio State or drop quite a few spots. Memphis will either keep rising, while giving itself a direct future comparison to Notre Dame, or else fall off the radar. And, finally, the winner of the LSU - Alabama game should firmly establish itself as a top-4 team.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

my question is if Ole Siss wins the west and maybe even the SEC championship game and If Bama wins out, do we still get into the final four without winning the SEC?

This is my biggest concern.

1 OHNO
2.Clemson
3. Lswhoo
4. TCU
5. Baylor (not sure about this with injured qb)
6. Bama

plus a bunch of elimination games coming up. RTR
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

I really doesn't matter a whole lot what the rankings are right now. OSU squeaked in last year and won it all after having not been in the top 4 until the last poll. There are several elimination games including ours this weekend. Assuming the committee drops the loser of the elimination games out and we win out, It is highly likely we are in. Ole Miss can muddy the water if they win out though and that will hurt us, but my bet is that either LSU or Arky beats them. It is going to be interesting.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

Here's my prediction:

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[TD]Prediction
[/TD]
[TD]Team
[/TD]
[TD]Record
[/TD]
[TD]Record vs Current AP Top 25
[/TD]
[TD]Strength of Schedule
[/TD]
[TD]AP Rank
[/TD]
[TD]FPI Rank
[/TD]
[TD]S&P+ Rank
[/TD]
[TD]Best Win
[/TD]
[TD]Best Loss
[/TD]
[TD]Worst Loss
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]Clemson
[/TD]
[TD]8-0
[/TD]
[TD]1-0
[/TD]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]Notre Dame
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]LSU
[/TD]
[TD]7-0
[/TD]
[TD]2-0
[/TD]
[TD]38
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]Florida
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]Ohio State
[/TD]
[TD]8-0
[/TD]
[TD]0-0
[/TD]
[TD]59
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]Penn State
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4
[/TD]
[TD]Baylor
[/TD]
[TD]7-0
[/TD]
[TD]0-0
[/TD]
[TD]112
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]West Virginia
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]TCU
[/TD]
[TD]8-0
[/TD]
[TD]0-0
[/TD]
[TD]79
[/TD]
[TD]5
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[TD]West Virginia
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]Michigan State
[/TD]
[TD]8-0
[/TD]
[TD]1-0
[/TD]
[TD]27
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]19
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]Michigan
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[TD]Florida
[/TD]
[TD]7-1
[/TD]
[TD]1-1
[/TD]
[TD]33
[/TD]
[TD]11
[/TD]
[TD]12
[/TD]
[TD]10
[/TD]
[TD]Ole Miss
[/TD]
[TD]LSU
[/TD]
[TD]LSU
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]Iowa
[/TD]
[TD]8-0
[/TD]
[TD]0-0
[/TD]
[TD]19
[/TD]
[TD]10
[/TD]
[TD]29
[/TD]
[TD]16
[/TD]
[TD]Wisconsin
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]Notre Dame
[/TD]
[TD]7-1
[/TD]
[TD]1-1
[/TD]
[TD]17
[/TD]
[TD]8
[/TD]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]Temple
[/TD]
[TD]Clemson
[/TD]
[TD]Clemson
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10
[/TD]
[TD]Alabama
[/TD]
[TD]7-1
[/TD]
[TD]1-1
[/TD]
[TD]31
[/TD]
[TD]7
[/TD]
[TD]6
[/TD]
[TD]2
[/TD]
[TD]Wisconsin
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]11
[/TD]
[TD]Utah
[/TD]
[TD]7-1
[/TD]
[TD]1-0
[/TD]
[TD]34
[/TD]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]20
[/TD]
[TD]24
[/TD]
[TD]Michigan
[/TD]
[TD]USC
[/TD]
[TD]USC
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]12
[/TD]
[TD]Stanford
[/TD]
[TD]7-1
[/TD]
[TD]1-0
[/TD]
[TD]54
[/TD]
[TD]9
[/TD]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]17
[/TD]
[TD]UCLA
[/TD]
[TD]Northwestern
[/TD]
[TD]Northwestern
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]Memphis
[/TD]
[TD]8-0
[/TD]
[TD]1-0
[/TD]
[TD]55
[/TD]
[TD]15
[/TD]
[TD]36
[/TD]
[TD]34
[/TD]
[TD]Ole Miss
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[TD]N/A
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


I think, at this point, that the most important factors the committee will be considering will be:
1. Record combined with SoS
2. Best Win(s).
3. Best & Worst Loss.
4. Other rankings.

Note: The Strength of Schedule listed here is purely a combination of Opponents' Win % combined with Opponents' Opponents' Win %.

At this point in the season, neither Ohio State, TCU, nor Baylor have any true, quality wins to write home about - with Baylor and TCU sharing their best win against a 3-4 team.

Clemson and LSU have, by far, the best wins. Florida and Notre Dame have the best losses, while Stanford clearly has the worst loss.


This week's slate of games looks to have a decent effect on next week's rankings, with:
Florida State at Clemson
Arkansas at Ole Miss
TCU at Oklahoma State
Navy at Memphis
LSU at Alabama

All of these games have a chance to either immediately and/or in the near future directly affect the statistical and perceived strength of various top teams. Clemson will either solidify its hold on a top spot or drop a few spots. Arkansas winning, while it potentially could drastically help Alabama in the SEC West race, would drop Ole Miss from the rankings and make Bama's loss look worse. TCU will either leapfrog Baylor and/or Ohio State or drop quite a few spots. Memphis will either keep rising, while giving itself a direct future comparison to Notre Dame, or else fall off the radar. And, finally, the winner of the LSU - Alabama game should firmly establish itself as a top-4 team.

"Now who can argue with that? I think we're all indebted to Gabby Johnson for clearly stating what needed to be said. I'm particulary glad that these lovely children were here today to hear that speech.":wink:

In all seriousness, well done.
 
Re: Tonights the first Playoff Poll release. What's YOUR prediction.

Thinking about the way they ran the poll last year, they will not put Alabama ahead of any P5 undefeated teams. They will hedge their bets in case those teams win out. I just wonder how they will treat teams like Memphis, who beat ole Miss, who beat Alabama.

Bama will be ahead of Iowa.....

Because if they don't then SOS means nothing....and they won't run the risk of having that (excuse the pun) elephant in the room......

They will need SOS to have value later in the process.....so they have to set the standard tonight.
 

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