Republican-Conservative Catch All Thread

[gtowntide]

Which I believe was quite effectively shut by a few liberal shrills, too. You in particular, always claim to want facts but it's really "your facts" that you want presented because they fit your narrative. When someone else disagrees you and you minions start shutting people down with name calling and such. All the while complaining that consevatives/repubs never listen.

92tide, you have minions?

 

[92tide]

92tide, you have minions?

i have been quietly gathering them for years.

 

[Bodhisattva]

i have been quietly gathering them for years.

Please stop. It's not cute any more.

 

[92tide]

Please stop. It's not cute any more.

you ain't seen the half of it. wait until i release the minion/baby shark mashup

 

[81usaf92]

you ain't seen the half of it. wait until i release the minion/baby shark mashup

Could be worse.... “DO YOU WANT TO BUILD ....” ..... gag ... it’s too annoying to finish

 

[TexasBama]

Trump prefers deities that don't die for sins like he prefers soldiers who don't get held prisoner. He hates losers, so yes, he is just like Jesus.

 

[Bama 8Ball]

Times are so crazy you have some of the most liberal democrats crying about PDJT WITHDRAWING our troops from Syria, and card carrying republican members of the military industrial complex applauding it. I wonder what percentage of these same people were on completely different sides of the coin when PBHO pulled out of Iraq? ..strange times indeed.

 

[Jon]

Times are so crazy you have some of the most liberal democrats crying about PDJT WITHDRAWING our troops from Syria, and card carrying republican members of the military industrial complex applauding it. I wonder what percentage of these same people were on completely different sides of the coin when PBHO pulled out of Iraq? ..strange times indeed.

Trump is showing that he is exactly the Russian Puppet we thought he was. The GOP doesn't care as imo they are as bought and paid for as he is

 

[Bama 8Ball]

Trump is showing that he is exactly the Russian Puppet we thought he was. The GOP doesn't care as imo they are as bought and paid for as he is

And the other side is proving that they really don't care about world policing and, getting involved in century old conflicts, and building regimes. Whichever stance benefits one side and hurts the other. Go Team.

 

[Jon]

And the other side is proving that they really don't care about world policing and, getting involved in century old conflicts, and building regimes. Whichever stance benefits one side and hurts the other. Go Team.

I criticized Obama for his foreign policy too

but at least his was his misguided attempt at trying to do what was best for America

Trump's is all about what is best for Trump and in most cases that aligns to Russias interests not ours

 

[92tide]

I criticized Obama for his foreign policy too

but at least his was his misguided attempt at trying to do what was best for America, and try to somewhat reverse the complete trainwreck that w turned the middle east into with his excellent adventures

Trump's is all about what is best for Trump and in most cases that aligns to Russias interests not ours

fify

 

[chanson78]

Times are so crazy you have some of the most liberal democrats crying about PDJT WITHDRAWING our troops from Syria, and card carrying republican members of the military industrial complex applauding it. I wonder what percentage of these same people were on completely different sides of the coin when PBHO pulled out of Iraq? ..strange times indeed.

It's great that you are focusing in on the real issues such as the above and conveniently whitewashing the fact that traditional allies in both the fights against Saddam Hussein and ISIS, are now being slaughtered by a country that tried to pay PDJT's one time national security advisor to kidnap a dissident. Not to mention, that those very same air strikes and assaults have managed to allow thousands of ISIS fighters to escape prisons. When you couple that with the fact that the policies of the president have driven the Kurds directly to one time foes, and definite current foes of the US, boiling it down to hypocrisy of the left seems a bit short sighted.

Oh one other thing, since history seems malleable as of late. Let us not forget that BHO was mandated to leave Iraq due to something called the US-Iraq Status of Forces Act.

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. combat forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.

Now I have seen quite a few instances where those in the media, facebook, and the inter webs are pitching this whole "DJT removes troops, he gets wrecked, BHO does it and he is applauded, they are nothing but hypocrites!" narrative. Now that you know the facts, and have some background as to why so many are upset, I wonder if you are going to spread the accurate representation of what is going on, or are you going to stick with the standard Fox News pablum.

 

[92tide]

Now that you know the facts, and have some background as to why so many are upset, I wonder if you are going to spread the accurate representation of what is going on, or are you going to stick with the standard Fox News pablum.

you must be new here. welcome, check out the buffet and don't forget to tip the waitstaff and bartenders

 

[Bama 8Ball]

It's great that you are focusing in on the real issues such as the above and conveniently whitewashing the fact that traditional allies in both the fights against Saddam Hussein and ISIS, are now being slaughtered by a country that tried to pay PDJT's one time national security advisor to kidnap a dissident. Not to mention, that those very same air strikes and assaults have managed to allow thousands of ISIS fighters to escape prisons. When you couple that with the fact that the policies of the president have driven the Kurds directly to one time foes, and definite current foes of the US, boiling it down to hypocrisy of the left seems a bit short sighted.

Oh one other thing, since history seems malleable as of late. Let us not forget that BHO was mandated to leave Iraq due to something called the US-Iraq Status of Forces Act.


Now I have seen quite a few instances where those in the media, facebook, and the inter webs are pitching this whole "DJT removes troops, he gets wrecked, BHO does it and he is applauded, they are nothing but hypocrites!" narrative. Now that you know the facts, and have some background as to why so many are upset, I wonder if you are going to spread the accurate representation of what is going on, or are you going to stick with the standard Fox News pablum.

Easy champ. I ain't whitewashing anything. I am simply pointing out that the right and left both support different sides of the same coin at different times.

You are right. PGWB did in fact sign the Act for the responsible end to boots on the ground in Iraq. This was applauded by many and decried by others due to giving the malevolent forces in Iraq a date they "could hold out until". In fact, If I recall, many in the senate and in the military pleaded with PBHO to leave a force of 10-15k as a "stabilizing force". Many believed this would have been an easy negotiation with the Iraqi Parliament, but who is to say? Either way PBHO decided not to and a few years later, as predicted by many experts, ISIS was blowing things up and running over people with trucks.

So as I said originally, yes PBHO was applauded by many of his backers for the withdrawal and decried by many on the right. But then again, I am guessing you knew that. It is ok to question and disagree. You don't have to toe the party line.

FWIW, I agreed with Obama not leaving 10,000 troops behind at the time, and I agree with leaving Syria.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Easy champ. I ain't whitewashing anything. I am simply pointing out that the right and left both support different sides of the same coin at different times.

You are right. PGWB did in fact sign the Act for the responsible end to boots on the ground in Iraq. This was applauded by many and decried by others due to giving the malevolent forces in Iraq a date they "could hold out until". In fact, If I recall, many in the senate and in the military pleaded with PBHO to leave a force of 10-15k as a "stabilizing force". Many believed this would have been an easy negotiation with the Iraqi Parliament, but who is to say? Either way PBHO decided not to and a few years later, as predicted by many experts, ISIS was blowing things up and running over people with trucks.

So as I said originally, yes PBHO was applauded by many of his backers for the withdrawal and decried by many on the right. But then again, I am guessing you knew that. It is ok to question and disagree. You don't have to toe the party line.

FWIW, I agreed with Obama not leaving 10,000 troops behind at the time, and I agree with leaving Syria.

Hold your breath and, if you live long enough, you will regret that statement...

 

[81usaf92]

And the other side is proving that they really don't care about world policing and, getting involved in century old conflicts, and building regimes. Whichever stance benefits one side and hurts the other. Go Team.

Somewhat agree, but if you are trying to fix that aspect of politics then I don’t think getting behind a person who openly quotes Mussolini on his Twitter and doubles down on that is okay to do so is the answer. It’s like trying to containing a serious outbreak only to have your wife to drive an infected neighbor to the airport.

 

[Go Bama]

Somewhat agree, but if you are trying to fix that aspect of politics then I don’t think getting behind a person who openly quotes Mussolini on his Twitter and doubles down on that is okay to do so is the answer. It’s like trying to containing a serious outbreak only to have your wife to drive an infected neighbor to the airport.

I was with you until my wife got behind the wheel. :wink:

 

[Bama 8Ball]

Somewhat agree, but if you are trying to fix that aspect of politics then I don’t think getting behind a person who openly quotes Mussolini on his Twitter and doubles down on that is okay to do so is the answer. It’s like trying to containing a serious outbreak only to have your wife to drive an infected neighbor to the airport.

Shoot brother, I dont know that politics can be fixed. And I believe PDJT is merely the result of career politicians from both sides looking out for number one.

 

[81usaf92]

Shoot brother, I dont know that politics can be fixed. And I believe PDJT is merely the result of career politicians from both sides looking out for number one.

Yes. No. Maybe. The problem is probably the two party system pigeon holing folks into political stereotypes that aren’t even remotely accurate. Namely conservative and liberal.

 

[jcabama]

At my age, it's not a strange phenomenon. It was a standing joke during Wallace's career that you couldn't find anyone who'd admit voting for him the morning before or after election day, but, somehow, he just kept on winning elections. I've said it before, but, so far as I can tell, the voters behind Trump are just Wallace voters a generation later, and the reasons are exactly the same. It's a racist vote. It's just that some will admit it and some will not...

Earl you do realize that it was in large part the black voters in Alabama who put GW back in office for the final time? As a Grad student in the political science department at UA during his last election I used to review the results of the Capstone poll as it built up during the campaign and was simply stunned by that fact. Given that knowledge, it is no surprise to me that people who are repulsed by Trump personally choose to hold their nose and vote for him because of what he isn't--a socialist ready to open our borders and give everything to everyone to buy power.