FIFYI just wanted Clemson to lose because they did not belong in that game. OSU beat them everywhere except on the field.
FIFYI just wanted Clemson to lose because they did not belong in that game. OSU beat them everywhere except on the field.
Dan Mullen managed to get Mississippi State (!) to number one for five weeks in his sixth year as coach.their declines like UF has everything to do with coaching hires. UF has a great x and o coach but cant recruit. FSU imo has the best coach in that state. Diaz is a joke. Clemson will lose a ACC game look at UNC game this past year. Clemsons issue is when they lose better not be like this year or they are out. They play literally no one. USCE will fire Muschamp next year and that should hurt Clemson if they make a good hire.
No, we beat them on the field. The officials changes the scoreboard.FIFY
maybe you should go see his classes. Also he lived off juco/MS players. very different than FL national recruits UF should be getting. 6th in the SEC this year 5th last yearDan Mullen managed to get Mississippi State (!) to number one for five weeks in his sixth year as coach.
He did that by beating three teams in a row in the top eight (LSU/AM/Auburn). Mullen was the first coach in MSU history to ever make an appearance at my high school (about 35 miles from Starkvegas) while recruiting on a Friday night.
This is his third year and he went 11-2 last year.
You and I must have different views on what constitutes ability to recruit. At the time he was recruiting in Mississippi, Ole Miss was throwing around big bucks like they were Ben Stein.
And behind who exactly?maybe you should go see his classes. Also he lived off juco/MS players. very different than FL national recruits UF should be getting. 6th in the SEC this year 5th last year
They were 11-2 last year with lower ranked classes and lost to the national champions and the division champions and finished number six in the poll.If UF is not in the top 5 every year, then they are not successful.
I meant successful recruiting classes -- yes, they were very successful on the field.They were 11-2 last year with lower ranked classes and lost to the national champions and the division champions and finished number six in the poll.
That's not a successful year??????????
("Oh, but they didn't win the national championship" is a ludicrous argument).
But isn't successful seasons (i.e. 11-2) evidence that you're having successful recruiting classes? We define "successful recruiting classes" based on "Stars" given to recruits before they ever touch a college field. But the reality of it is those recruiting classes aren't proven good until they pay off on the field. Correct?I meant successful recruiting classes -- yes, they were very successful on the field.
Can you really say they were his classes? We have guys that are just now going into their junior year. I get what your saying but UF should be top 5 nationally every year they have more of a recruiting advantage than us and LSU. When UF is a recruiting machine they are getting kids from all over but especially North East and Atlantic Coast. It kind of goes back to what I said that Dan Mullen is a top x and o coach but isn't great at recruiting. He just hired his best recruiter this year in Brewster. UF fans even acknowledge that Dan needs to do better in recruiting just like Mac needed too.But isn't successful seasons (i.e. 11-2) evidence that you're having successful recruiting classes? We define "successful recruiting classes" based on "Stars" given to recruits before they ever touch a college field. But the reality of it is those recruiting classes aren't proven good until they pay off on the field. Correct?
I agree with Jam...I also think that success in recruiting and success in development are 2 different measurements...both are necessary to have a top program YIYO.But isn't successful seasons (i.e. 11-2) evidence that you're having successful recruiting classes? We define "successful recruiting classes" based on "Stars" given to recruits before they ever touch a college field. But the reality of it is those recruiting classes aren't proven good until they pay off on the field. Correct?
Agreed. Mullen is a Meyer disciple and Meyer's classes at UF were ranked #1 a couple of times with most of the talent coming in-state. UF fans expect top 5 classes with the overall talent in FLA and they are not getting them even with the early success Mullen has had. The next 2-3 years will certainly tell us more but I agree with your overall assessment to date.Can you really say they were his classes? We have guys that are just now going into their junior year. I get what your saying but UF should be top 5 nationally every year they have more of a recruiting advantage than us and LSU. When UF is a recruiting machine they are getting kids from all over but especially North East and Atlantic Coast. It kind of goes back to what I said that Dan Mullen is a top x and o coach but isn't great at recruiting. He just hired his best recruiter this year in Brewster. UF fans even acknowledge that Dan needs to do better in recruiting just like Mac needed too.
So why are you leaving out Urban Meyer/ Champ recruiting classes ?What was Florida recruiting before Mullen got there?
National Ranking
2014: 9
2015: 21
2016: 12
Couldnt you say that OSU choked?I just wanted Clemson to lose because they did not belong in that game. OSU beat them on the field.