Instacart is firing every employee who voted to unionize
Instacart is shutting down some of its in-store operations in favor of curbside pickups amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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It is. They will just make the layoff broad enough that they can say it was unrelated.I thought this was illegal.Instacart is firing every employee who voted to unionize
Instacart is shutting down some of its in-store operations in favor of curbside pickups amid the coronavirus pandemic.www.theverge.com
JMO, and I am generally pro-union, but if you take a job as a gig worker you accept the fact that it is a job without benefits. Unionizing destroys the business model, and you now have no job. So I have no sympathy for these folks or the business. The business is taking advantage of people, paying them less than a living wage. The people took the job knowing what they were taking and are willing to burn it all down to get more.This is gonna get messy.
I agree. Still gonna get messy.JMO, and I am generally pro-union, but if you take a job as a gig worker you accept the fact that it is a job without benefits. Unionizing destroys the business model, and you now have no job. So I have no sympathy for these folks or the business. The business is taking advantage of people, paying them less than a living wage. The people took the job knowing what they were taking and are willing to burn it all down to get more.
You mean the ACA open marketplace isn’t good enough. Imagine that, even the “affordable” plans are not affordable. One day this country will wake up and realize that healthcare should be a guaranteed right not a privilege.So how do gig employees get health insurance if it is a job without benefits? I do not mind them not getting paid vacation. As a gig employee you can take a vacation any time you want.
Couldn’t you say that about any job though? People who take a job at McDonalds for $10 an hour know what they are getting into but that doesn’t stop them from demanding more. All these delivery type businesses and things like Lyft and Uber only exist to make the owner wealthy on the backs of their poorly paid peasants. I despise all these companies for how they treat there employees.JMO, and I am generally pro-union, but if you take a job as a gig worker you accept the fact that it is a job without benefits. Unionizing destroys the business model, and you now have no job. So I have no sympathy for these folks or the business. The business is taking advantage of people, paying them less than a living wage. The people took the job knowing what they were taking and are willing to burn it all down to get more.
I do not know alot about healthcare right now. Most of my coworkers get theirs through my job and would not have health insurance if my job did not help out. I get mine because i am a veteran so i never have to worry about my employer. But i have gotten a bill before i was a veteran or had an employer that helped with insurance and it was scary. I was just wondering how gig employees do it. I am not familiar with the "ACA open marketplace."You mean the ACA open marketplace isn’t good enough. Imagine that, even the “affordable” plans are not affordable. One day this country will wake up and realize that healthcare should be a guaranteed right not a privilege.
Somebody’s gotta pay for it.You mean the ACA open marketplace isn’t good enough. Imagine that, even the “affordable” plans are not affordable. One day this country will wake up and realize that healthcare should be a guaranteed right not a privilege.
There was some business in the state of Washington ( I cannot think of it off the top of ny head) that raised the cost of all employees by making the lowest paid employees very well compensated. A couple of years later they are more profitable rather than less. It turns out well compensated employees are more productive.Somebody’s gotta pay for it.
Somewhere, somehow, whether it’s a direct tax or payroll deduction, or folded into something else, or a lottery, or some other subterfuge, the buildings, equipment, staff, pharma and R&D all cost money.
The question is whether you choose to pay those costs (and if so, how), or choose to tolerate deteriorating buildings and equipment, slower to non-existent advances, and deteriorating quality of staff.
You will have one or the other.
If the ACA doesn’t work for you (BTW — it would work if the mandate for participation by all people — read: young, healthy people — hadn’t been removed by Trump), what is your suggestion?
I would get there from a slightly different angle, but I don’t dispute your conclusion.There was some business in the state of Washington ( I cannot think of it off the top of ny head) that raised the cost of all employees by making the lowest paid employees very well compensated. A couple of years later they are more profitable rather than less. It turns out well compensated employees are more productive.
My reply was for employers to provide GOOD insurance universally. Not for universal insurance. You said essentially that you could pay for health insurance and have deteriorating buildings etc. (Or maybe i am misunderstanding you). I think that employers providing insurance along with other good benefits could motivate their employees to be productive enough to offset the costs incurred by the employer. I would argue that if instacart gave their employees what they are demanding that the employees would work so much harder that instacart would gain money rather than losing it by providing these benefits.I would get there from a slightly different angle, but I don’t dispute your conclusion.
Still, I’m not sure I see where the concept that employees who make more money are more productive, fits into paying for universal healthcare, which is what CrimsonNagus advocates..
I may not have been clear.My reply was for employers to provide GOOD insurance universally. Not for universal insurance. You said essentially that you could pay for health insurance and have deteriorating buildings etc. (Or maybe i am misunderstanding you). I think that employers providing insurance along with other good benefits could motivate their employees to be productive enough to offset the costs incurred by the employer. I would argue that if instacart gave their employees what they are demanding that the employees would work so much harder that instacart would gain money rather than losing it by providing these benefits.
An admirable desire. Two questions:.....
At the very least, if a NHS is never possible, insurance companies should be forced to cover 100% of everything beyond co-pays and deductibles. You should be able to walk into any doctor/hospital knowing exactly what it is going to cost. There shouldn’t be any mystery about it, pay your co-pay and your done.
Business taxes would be a good place to start. It would be somewhat of a wash for most businesses.Somebody’s gotta pay for it.
Somewhere, somehow, whether it’s a direct tax or payroll deduction, or folded into something else, or a lottery, or some other subterfuge, the buildings, equipment, staff, pharma and R&D all cost money....into the Billions, if not Trillions of dollars.
The question is whether you choose to pay those costs (and if so, how), or choose to tolerate deteriorating buildings and equipment, slower to non-existent advances, and deteriorating quality of staff.
You will have one or the other.
If the ACA doesn’t work for you (BTW — it would work if the mandate for participation by all people — read: young, healthy people — hadn’t been removed by Trump), what is your suggestion?
I don’t know, I’m not that smart. All I know is what we have to pay out of pocket even with insurance. Part of the problem is the prices the doctors and hospitals charge the insurance companies. Look at any hospital bill and the prices for things are outrageous. If prices were reasonable, insurers could easily cover 100%. I think they could anyway, insurers make billions in profits each year.An admirable desire. Two questions:
1. Who should determine what the co-pay and/or deductible should be?
2. Where should the insurance company get the money to cover the difference between the bill and the co-pay / deductible, however those might be determined?
I actually think the ACA, as originally envisioned, will work. You just have to have an enforced mandate whereby everybody has to have either private insurance, or a policy through an exchange. Then, there are subsidies for low income.
After some early fits and starts, it was actually working for everybody, including the insurance companies. Then the Trump administration blew up the individual mandate and the fundamental underpinnings fell away.