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[BamaMoon]

Raise your hand if you thought Milroe would throw a better deep ball than Young at similar points in their careers.

Deep Ball was not the thing that ever concerned me about the guy. Everything that concerned me is what we saw tonight.

Alexander, I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not but throwing deep is the only thing JM is good at (not counting running).

The deep ball will never define if a QB is good. Sark knew JM could go deep so the gameplan was to pressure him to not have enough time to wait on the deep route and then spy him if he tries to run. Gameplan worked to perfection outside of a couple of times Milroe threw a good ball or two.

But it's his inability to be a QB in the areas where it takes elite talent to win in college football that he lacks at this point. Recognizing when people are baiting him in underneath coverages and making 3rd down, tight window type completions.

Sad, hard truth is: JM is lucky he didn't have 2 or 3 more INTs tonight with some of those lazy and risky throws he made. His WRs bailed him out on many of those making circus catches.

 

[CB4]

If that's the case then he never "had" the team to begin with. A coach can't coach by mutual assent.

I agree. And think, given his performances last year filling in for Bryce and two games in, we have enough “body of work” to make a decision.

 

[Cruloc]

Well, the sun came up again.

Feels different this time though. Hard to believe we just don't look prepared in tough games anymore.

This hyped OL is exactly that, all hype. Where were they when it mattered?

Milroe had two of the worst INTs I've seen. He gift wrapped the second one that allowed them to extend their lead. He also should have been picked 4 or 5 times, throwing into double or triple coverage. If he's going to QB, we just need to commit to the option. He's too indecisive on who to throw to.

Where was the pressure on Ewers? Why couldn't we scheme something?

And the big one that bothered me last week too, why in the world are our RBs getting absolutely obliterated or whiffing entirely on blitz pick ups?

 

[CB4]

Alexander, I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not but throwing deep is the only thing JM is good at (not counting running).

The deep ball will never define if a QB is good. Sark knew JM could go deep so the gameplan was to pressure him to not have enough time to wait on the deep route and then spy him if he tries to run. Gameplan worked to perfection outside of a couple of times Milroe threw a good ball or two.

But it's his inability to be a QB in the areas where it takes elite talent to win in college football that he lacks at this point. Recognizing when people are baiting him in underneath coverages and making 3rd down, tight window type completions.

Sad, hard truth is: JM is lucky he didn't have 2 or 3 more INTs tonight with some of those lazy and risky throws he made. His WRs bailed him out on many of those making circus catches.

This…so much this. Even versus MTSU JM was telegraphing throws. His two interceptions weren’t simply bad. They were awful. And those circus catches will turn into “alligator arms” because he came close to hanging receivers out to dry.

 

[AlexanderFan]

Alexander, I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not but throwing deep is the only thing JM is good at (not counting running).

The deep ball will never define if a QB is good. Sark knew JM could go deep so the gameplan was to pressure him to not have enough time to wait on the deep route and then spy him if he tries to run. Gameplan worked to perfection outside of a couple of times Milroe threw a good ball or two.

But it's his inability to be a QB in the areas where it takes elite talent to win in college football that he lacks at this point. Recognizing when people are baiting him in underneath coverages and making 3rd down, tight window type completions.

Sad, hard truth is: JM is lucky he didn't have 2 or 3 more INTs tonight with some of those lazy and risky throws he made. His WRs bailed him out on many of those making circus catches.

It was a totally sarcastic post that illustrates the difference between where we were and where we find ourselves at the quarterback position.

Milroe’s outstanding athletic abilities do not compensate for his inability to do normal quarterback duties. He missed open guys last night that other quarterbacks would’ve found, and the plays he made with his athletic ability didn’t overshadow the ones he missed.

 

[BamaMoon]

This…so much this. Even versus MTSU JM was telegraphing throws. His two interceptions weren’t simply bad. They were awful. And those circus catches will turn into “alligator arms” because he came close to hanging receivers out to dry.

Yeah, I think we now know why the WRs were being so maligned during the fall.

They were playing against our good secondary trying to catch these type of passes.

So far, the WR core has been the biggest surprise. But they can't keep this up. We'll have multiple injuries if this is the type of QB play CNS plans to try to play with this year!

 

[BamaMoon]

It was a totally sarcastic post that illustrates the difference between where we were and where we find ourselves at the quarterback position.

Milroe’s outstanding athletic abilities do not compensate for his inability to do normal quarterback duties. He missed open guys last night that other quarterbacks would’ve found, and the plays he made with his athletic ability didn’t overshadow the ones he missed.

Thank you. We agree 1000%!

 

[davefrat]

STRUGGLING!

 

[AWRTR]

When I heard Coach Saban say we were going back to running the ball and winning with defense my first thought was "HUH?" With what? First, we need a D that can hold the score down and then we need a QB who is consistent. The score indicates we have neither. There is no quick fix to the D but there is a gunslinger QB on the bench.

I actually think the defense is there. I know they didn't get a lot of pressure but they held UT with a great offensive head coach to 13 points through three quarters, and three of those points were gift wrapped via a terrible interception. If your defense gives up 10 points on its own through three quarters with pretty much 0 help from the offense then your defense isn't bad. The offense did nothing to help the defense. Even with the oline play a competent QB would have had the game well in hand. I wish Milore the best. He comes across as a nice guy. I believe he is giving it his all, but sadly he doesn't have it. His play put the oline and the rest of the offense in a position where UT feared nothing and crashed the line of scrimmage. I know the oline can play better, but decent QB play solves a lot of this because the defense has to play honest. UT didn't have to.

 

[AWRTR]

If you've not read @JessN 's post-game write-up, please do so - here's the link.

I really find his thoughts on offensive philosophy interesting. Pick a style and go all in. Milroe is only viable in the read option type situation. I don't think he can run the RPO effectively. He can't throw those slants like Tua, Bryce, and other effective RPO guys. I think you have to go with another QB and probably change at RG and maybe C as well. I would be looking to get Buchner, Simpson, or Lonergan ready for Ole Miss. I have two weeks and a cupcake for a warm up. I hate it because Milroe's a fine young man who is doing his best and he has a unique skill set physically, but he doesn't have whatever great QB's or even above average QB's have to play winning football. I wish him the best and would still love for the light to come on, but the sample size is now showing it's just not there.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

After sleeping on it, I am still mad. We were unprepared, undisciplined, and just flat out got outcoached in every phase. All the talk this offseason was just that talk. This is going to be a very long season. The most telling moment was seeing the OC in the booth looking just exasperated. Then we get the post game press conference and we actually hear the head coach say the QB has good sideline demeanor? Seriously? With the changing college football world changing for the worst, I am getting closer and closer to just checking out. I am not going to mind missing games every now and then.

 

[2003TIDE]

After sleeping on it, I am still mad. We were unprepared, undisciplined, and just flat out got outcoached in every phase. All the talk this offseason was just that talk. This is going to be a very long season. The most telling moment was seeing the OC in the booth looking just exasperated. Then we get the post game press conference and we actually hear the head coach say the QB has good sideline demeanor? Seriously? With the changing college football world changing for the worst, I am getting closer and closer to just checking out. I am not going to mind missing games every now and then.

What no love for the defense? I for one enjoy the “mush rush 3 without getting home and have the QB drop bombs over the secondary’s head” page of the playbook. Gonna be one of those years. So much for a more aggressive, simple, streamline defense.

 

[We_are_Bama]

We can still make the playoff. Just need a few things to happen between now and then

 

[DzynKingRTR]

What no love for the defense? I for one enjoy the “mush rush 3 without getting home and have the QB drop bombs over the secondary’s head” page of the playbook. Gonna be one of those years. So much for a more aggressive, simple, streamline defense.

Like I said all the talk was just talk. texas is just not this good, but we made them look like the best team in college football at times.

 

[tmv85]

I don’t post a lot outside of the weekly pre-game thread, and I try really hard to keep up with the game threads, but I usually get so behind in those I stop reading. I’m a fast reader, but y’all have faster fingers. LOL

This may have been mentioned in the game thread, but when they did the split screen with Rees/Milroe, I said I didn’t like what I saw. Rees looked completely frustrated and at a loss. I would love to have been a fly on the wall to know what was being said/going through Rees’ mind before, during, and after that conversation I felt like I was seeing someone who was thinking “I don’t know what else to do.”

 

[bamafaninbham]

After sleeping on it, I am still mad. We were unprepared, undisciplined, and just flat out got outcoached in every phase. All the talk this offseason was just that talk. This is going to be a very long season. The most telling moment was seeing the OC in the booth looking just exasperated. Then we get the post game press conference and we actually hear the head coach say the QB has good sideline demeanor? Seriously? With the changing college football world changing for the worst, I am getting closer and closer to just checking out. I am not going to mind missing games every now and then.

This is the same team we have had the previous two years. We just don't have Bryce Young to bail the team out this year.

 

[CB4]

I’ll go back to what I said to my son last night: the CNS credo on defense of “stopping the run first” means little today in college football if you have a highly skilled QB on the other side. We held them under 100 yards rushing until the last five minutes of the game, when our defense was just “gassed” and they leaned on us. And the notion of “joyless murderball” includes an o-line that sustain blocks and re-establish the LOS. We did neither.

Meanwhile, Ewers sat back in a rocking chair and was never made uncomfortable.

 

[2003TIDE]

We can still make the playoff. Just need a few things to happen between now and then

Our kicking game looked strong! Next time we bring field goals to a touchdown contest, I think we will have them right where we want them.

 

[CrimSonami]

Folks, this has all the signs of the dreaded “Rebuilding” year.

The primary rebuild should be the O-line. My suspicion is JM is the designated starter due to his athleticism and escapability. Definitely not because of his passing prowess and diagnosis of opposition defense. At some point you gotta get Lonergan some meaningful snaps and get him up to the speed of the game but it makes little sense to throw him in the fire at this point.

Next, I’m not sure. I’d say our secondary but we all knew Sark was going to create problems with a star QB at his disposal for the entire game. Honestly, when he left for Austin I was hoping he’d have moderate success for a few years with overbearing Short Horn boosters then be invited back to Tuscaloosa when CNS decides he’s done. Now, that’s appearing to be not so likely.

Hopefully this loss is a minor pothole in the road to the playoffs but, as many have stated, it’s not feeling like that at the moment.

ROLL TIDE!

 

[RammerJammer15]

Why has McLaughlin regressed so badly? He went toe to toe with the Philadelphia Eagles defense in the 2021 SECCG, I don’t get it.