Jalen Milroe is now the starter going forward.

[Tideflyer]

That's exactly the way I see it. I'm pretty sure Lane Kiffin is going to have 7-8 on the line of schrimage...
Even if Milroe's friends decide to play and decide they can actually catch the ball, I see this game as a tough out.

I`m not a D coordinator, but why wouldn`t you load the line against us? I`d force the O to make me back off the line.

 

[Cruloc]

Has to be close to a record, I must admit. All we need is a Duron Carter mention or two and this thread will be legendary.

Does Duron Carter have eligibility left?

 

[gtgilbert]

In that particular play. It would be what auburn ran a lot with Nick Marshall. The QB reads the defensive end to decide to keep or give. It’s a relatively simple play. It could be a part of the running game that uses Milroe’s legs and the threat of his legs effectively to freeze the defense and give him or the RB an advantage with a simple read. You could still run RPO type plays as well.

again, JM ran it several times against UTw. Had 2 decent plays out of it (one Jase run and one Milroe run), but they shut down the rest of them down.

 

[gtgilbert]

I`m not a D coordinator, but why wouldn`t you load the line against us? I`d force the O to make me back off the line.

That's exactly what UTw did.

 

[AWRTR]

again, JM ran it several times against UTw. Had 2 decent plays out of it (one Jase run and one Milroe run), but they shut down the rest of them down.

I get what you are saying. I was just answering the other guys question and you’re probably right about that type of play not being able to be used regularly. Maybe it could be thrown in a couple of times a game.

 

[Tenntiderman]

If our left tackle doesn't improve Milro may not last long. I find it hard to believe that 7 other scholarship lineman can actually wave at outside rushers more effectively on their way to centering our QB in the back. If that is the case then what method are we using to evaluate these guys.

Yep....well said. I am a Fan of any QB in a Bama jersey, but the QB who can take a snap from behind this OL as it is now (because I want them to have fun too) has yet to be born. CMS said it is fixable. Well...ok. I guess he didn't mean right away. Most of us noticed the Pedestrian performance of the OL vs MTSU. Then Texas. And now USF. If it is fixable (and I sure hope it is) it will show this weekend. Ole Miss will bring it. I have no idea what is or is not going on with this group, but I want them to win every snap as a team. Same thing we all want to see. Fight for the cause. Beat Ole Miss dadgummit!!! The players have full control of the spirit if the OC is capable of retaining his job. Then? These kinds of threads will change.
I am certainly expecting better from the guys. They have worked too hard during the heat to be experiencing what they are...but when the game is on the line, you have to play. I want to see our OL coach getting after 'em on the bench. Maybe Rees ought to be on the sidelines too. Sorry but he is responsible too.

 

[BearFoot]

Or the Hee Haw song including the drinking in the back ground.

 

[81usaf92]

This post never took a break. Some you never slept. I’m blown away by all this too, but come on go to sleep.

When there is a controversial topic then everyone wants to get their shots in before it inevitably goes stale. It encourages a lot of new posters and drive by posters. Many people who do it late are trying to get one in that doesn’t generate an immediate response.

 

[Tenntiderman]

How did we get to this point? It is like our HC is new and knows nothing about the players left over from the former coaching staff. It boggles my mind. Color me very confused.

Right. Every poster here is pro-Bama..but can't help showing frustration knowing who is coming up. 4th game already and we haven't really seen what we have. If we were Vandy fans, we would be ecstatic

 

[CrimsonEyeshade]

Like I said earlier, facts are irrelevant in this argument.

So that explains why you have so few?

 

[CB4]

You are basing your conclusion on rumor. Come on man, you're better than this.

No I’m basing my conclusion on my observations, not rumor. I have no other conclusion to draw after watching that performance on Saturday than to say this is an emotionless, listless group of players simply going through motions than have little sense of unity or team.

And the FACT (not RUMOR) that a players only meeting was held only ADDS to the credibility to my conclusion..

Finally, it is MY OBSERVATION the past several years that Coach Saban has appeared tired and frustrated. Much of that frustration around simply getting players to “do what they are suppose to do”. At some point you simply decide some things aren’t worth the fight. You simply decide to fight the battles that you can win.

 

[TideEngineer08]

Today I thought about him and wondered how many times he rolled over in his grave.

He faced his own generational quandaries. Particularly as the 60s turned into the 70s. Had he lived, he would have faced more and he would have had to adjust.

 

[rolltide_21]

With Gol*ing at DC I'd not be surprised if OM didn't play dime or prevent all night.

My bet would be the Golding special- the ole 1-4-6 Nascar package that was so effective vs. runs and mobile qbs

 

[Tenntiderman]

No I’m basing my conclusion on my observations, not rumor. I have no other conclusion to draw after watching that performance on Saturday than to say this is an emotionless, listless group of players simply going through motions than have little sense of unity or team.

And the FACT (not RUMOR) that a players only meeting was held only ADDS to to the credibility to my conclusion..

Finally, it is MY OBSERVATION the past several years that Coach Saban has appeared tired and frustrated. Much of that frustration around simply getting players to “do what they are suppose to do”. At some point you simply decide some things aren’t worth the fight. You simply decide to fight the battles that you can win.

To the point. Good post. And you are correct that CMS is first of all a human being with all the normal emotions that we all have. Heck man...I am not far behind Coach, and I am tired. That Sir is why I call myself .....Retired-ed.

 

[TexasBama]

Dang, I remember the lyrics to that.

 

[Toddrn]

No I’m basing my conclusion on my observations, not rumor. I have no other conclusion to draw after watching that performance on Saturday than to say this is an emotionless, listless group of players simply going through motions than have little sense of unity or team.

And the FACT (not RUMOR) that a players only meeting was held only ADDS to the credibility to my conclusion..

Finally, it is MY OBSERVATION the past several years that Coach Saban has appeared tired and frustrated. Much of that frustration around simply getting players to “do what they are suppose to do”. At some point you simply decide some things aren’t worth the fight. You simply decide to fight the battles that you can win.

CNS can win every battle because he has the power to play or sit a player. He has chosen not to fight the fight. If those starting don't want to perform then sit them down and let someone play that does. If we are going to lose a game we might as well do it with players that want to be on the field.

 

[Toddrn]

To the point. Good post. And you are correct that CMS is first of all a human being with all the normal emotions that we all have. Heck man...I am not far behind Coach, and I am tired. That Sir is why I call myself .....Retired-ed.

Who is CMS?

 

[TideEngineer08]

One thing I've become certain of over the last 24 hours.

As a fan base, we are not going to handle Coach Saban's eventual retirement and replacement well.

At all.

 

[BamaMoon]

There is nothing of substance to indicate that. It’s not outside the realm of possibility, but IMO, it’s frankly reckless and potentially harmful to the program to pursue such a theme without any real evidence.

To the best of my recollection you've been a responsible poster. Unless, you have some real evidence, to jump to the conclusions you have is unfortunate. You're feeding what is baseless speculation at the moment.

I've tried to be responsible and credible and when I have something to say I remember the principle "it's not what you say but how you say it."

My opinion on this matter is based on three things: 1. The eye test (which you might call inference) 2. Facts (things that have happened this season on the field, what happened yesterday. 3. Some discussions with people who know people and discussions with friends (one who is a Mod here).

So, I've hinted at my suspicion the players didn't exactly play with all their heart for either Buchner or Simpson. That's based on all three of the things listed above.

1. What I saw was one of the worst defensive teams in college football looking like the 85 Bears. I watched half-butt efforts to block their OL. I watched OL not help up their QB who just got sacked because they just got beat. I watched our starting RB whiff on a block that got Simpson hit in the back that looked like he should be on the scout team (it's interesting he didn't play much after that and Roydell was the featured back down the stretch). Now, will the team, the LT or RB ever come out and say "Yeah, we decided we'd not play with 100% effort because we didn't want Buchner/Simpson to be the QB?" Of course not...at least not for a long time, but how else do we explain what we saw???

2. The "facts" of what happened or came to light yesterday are mind-numbing. It was revealed yesterday that Jalen was punished for a bad attitude (that's why he sat out of the game), there was a team meeting (about unity), and there was a PC in which CNS announced the player he punished is now the starter. Not only is this the first time I can ever remember CNS tipping his hat to another coach on what he's planning to do on a Monday, but a day after the players had a unity meeting he reinstates what appeared (before these things happened) to be the #3 QB!?!?. These matters, as far we know, happened; they are facts. How do we just ignore them and act as if this is normal for a Bama and CNS team?

3. Finally, people who know people who hear things who have a record of being right have indicated something was amiss Saturday. I won't repeat the exact words I was told, but they believe there was an intentional, apathetic effort giving by some of the players. Add to that there are media people like Ryan Fowler and Josh Pater (who have good reputations) who raised questions about these matters. And a friend that I trust that I talk Bama football with regularly, believes something is off too.

You don't have to agree. It'll never be "confirmed." But since you seem to be asking why I feel how I feel, thems the reasons.

 

[jthomas666]

Who is CMS?

Have we been talking about Mike Shula all this time?