Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, former Trump loyalist, says she is resigning from Congress
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Look, I don't doubt that, okay?
It's kind of reasonable to say, "no, she didn't start that way but she saw how close she was and figured she may as well cash in on it." I basically agree with that.
OTOH - her critics in a political party who:
a) replaced the democratically elected party nominee because he was old and infirm and couldn't even run for re-election
b) but KEPT HIM IN PLACE with the nuclear football
......those same folks can get bent. I said it last year, if Biden isn't well enough to run for reelection, he isn't well enough to remain President, either.
An octogenarian who doesn't know what day it is but can destroy the world has a whole lot more effect on the lives of everyone than some Congressional kook hanging on to save money on healthcare.
Probably same reason that Tuberville is quitting to run for governor...
Yes that was one of the 100s that hit my Twitter line.
"She carefully timed her departure" - she did what anyone with a brain INCLUDING Ms "I'm Gonna Pretend I'm Not Rich" would do.
Setting aside MTG or anyone, it sure seems INSANE to me that all somebody has to do is be there five years to get something like that. In 2004, when I was medically discharged from the USAF, my VA disability (started) at $986/month, but I had also put in 12.5 years to get it and lost a lot by contrast (full retirement at 20, family medical, etc).
Five years basically means you win 3 elections in a safe House district.
Although I'll grant this as someone said - MTG actually leaving after not being there long is far more in line with what the Founding Fathers intended.
No argument there... We need to have a competency test in place or an age limit. Maybe have an advisory council of the elderly who don't have any real power.
But... I felt pretty swell thinking that Jill wouldn't use the newklar football!
Everyone criticizing her would have done the exact same thing.
Exactly.
"Oh, she just held on for" by people who would have acted the exact same way. We've got people where I work playing the system that cannot even do their jobs but the union backs them so they can reach that day to qualify for extra pension benefits.
There's been so many of these things, and I always just roll my eyes at them.
Perhaps my favorite was "Al Franken has to resign because of 'me too'" and then all of a sudden when it looked like Roy Moore was going to win in Alabama, I saw suggestion after suggestion that "well, if Alabama elects Moore then Franken doesn't have to resign."
Well then he shouldn't be resigning in the first place - and let's be blunt: there's not a chance in Hell he resigns when he did if Tim Pawlenty is still the governor of Minnesota and will choose his successor. Or NJ Governor Jim McGreevey coming out (pardon the pun) and having to resign his office for a gay sex scandal but he can remain governor until after Election Day so the Democratic LTG can take over.
Again, those are EXPECTED actions and no, the GOP wouldn't act any differently, but none of these presented as "principle" ever really are about principle. Even "Nixon resigned to spare the country" is some pure nonsense, he only resigned after Barry Goldwater told him he had no chance at surviving removal from office.
Regarding the octogenarian with the football, you forget that Reagan was in the throes of Alzheimers during his 2nd term. They had Howard Baker running the show.
No argument there... We need to have a competency test in place or an age limit. Maybe have an advisory council of the elderly who don't have any real power.
But... I felt pretty swell thinking that Jill wouldn't use the newklar football!
Btw, you bring up something that has always amused me.
There's all this blubbering about the dinosaurs in Congress, and I agree with it for the most part. But when I first began observing politics around 1980, I had the same question and confusion: "Well then, if they're bothered by older folks holding office, why not replace them with younger ones?"
But the answer to that was always obvious: seniority translates into pork for the district or state. In 1982, John Stennis (81 years old) drubbed Haley Barbour (35 years old) 2-1 in the Mississippi Senate election despite the fact Mississippi was moving red, the Republicans at the time held the Senate, and Barbour later showed how incredibly politically astute he was by compiling one of the best all-around careers of any politician in the state's history (RNC chair, 2-term governor). Stennis was able to make the poorest state in the US quake at, "Well, if Barbour goes to the Senate then Mississippi is gonna lose all their military bases and jobs because seniority." The same thing happened - I mean, he literally ran around my district saying it - with Sonny Montgomery, who would dangle, "If I lose, the Meridian Naval Station and Columbus Air Force Base will close," and he'd win every time.
We've always had those old folks who wouldn't go to the nursing home in Congress. When JFK was murdered, look at the immediate line of succession:
LBJ - 55, which is not old, but he'd suffered a heart attack while in the Senate
John McCormack - Speaker of the House, 71 years old
Carl Hayden - President pro tempore, 86 years old
Why would Howard Baker be "running the show" when the former head of the CIA was Vice-President of the United States?
Baker was the Chief of Staff to clean up the administration from Iran-contra, true.
Also, I'd say it's at least debatable Reagan had Alzheimer's before he left office though possible.
Consider the comparison:
1987 - Reagan gives perhaps his most famous speech at the Brandenburg gate
2023 - Biden gives.....nothing approaching that
Although I again defer to Grizzard:
"What happened to the arms to Iran? I fuh-got. OF COURSE he forgot, the man is two years older than Arizona!"
not even remotely. i would have conducted a real life demonstration of the jewish space lasers, not just talk about them
that was actually completely the democrats' fault
I'm not opposed to older people holding office, but we don't need Diane Feinstein being rolled around in a wheelchair voting on major policy proposals when she is so demented she was almost nonverbal.
Rehnquist was hearing supreme court cases a couple of months before he died, he had anaplastic thyroid cancer and was so weak they literally had to prop him up, he couldn't speak because he had a trach punched through his growing tumor mass. And he refused to step down!
And these aren't isolated cases... And you are correct on the pork. We loved Senator Shelby here in HSV!
I think Reagan's brain took a hit after the assassination attempt. He was pulseless for quite a while and that probably layered on top of his Alzheimer's, which often takes a decade or more to present.
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