I think you are correct. Here is a quote from Mack Brown before the season that agrees with your understanding of the new rule...
ATTN MEDIA, re: Christion Jones "fumble" on the punt return
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...and lets add that their offense was no match for our defense, or their special teams was no match for our special teams, their coaching was no match for our coaching, etc, etc, and on and on...
it was as much of a mismatch as you can ever see in a BCS championship game.
ah, gotcha. i believe the first thing brent said on the play was "hey, we don't have the halo rule any longer" but guess it got reinstated this year...wow, don't remember halo rule for like 10 years.
looking at rule now...1 yard in front and/or shoulder-width on side of receiving player.
i stand corrected...100% correct call (still wouldn't want that called against us)
looking at rule now...1 yard in front and/or shoulder-width on side of receiving player.
i stand corrected...100% correct call (still wouldn't want that called against us)
yeah I remember the rule getting reinstated this year. I was watching the game with a room full of Bama fans who kept saying, "Wow that's a bad call". I kept telling them the Halo rule was back and this was the right call.
If they're going to cry about that flag, then they need to cry about that roughing the passer they called on us which gave ND their first TD. He barely touched Golson.
A more legitimate beef for Notre Dame would be that their player was blocked into the receiver. It may be like "running into the kicker" though where it is a strict liabilty penalty and it doesn't matter if it was unintentional or not your fault.
Like some others have pointed out, it would be interesting to know which player the penalty was called on. It may have been on the guy that was too quick to pounce on the receiver once he bobbled the ball.
And actually, there are Irish fans that would agree with that. Too many of them know that they were just outplayed overall.
I'll go ahead and break this down since no one else is willing to call it like it is:
* Bad call on the punt return fumble recovery. Moral victory result: touchdown Notre Dame! Adjusted score: 42-21.
* Cheating Bama paid the refs. Eifert caught that ball inbounds! Moral victory result: touchdown Notre Dame plus 3 bonus "morale points"! Adjusted score: 42-31.
* Oversigning evil! Take away a field goal from Bama. Adjusted score: 39-31.
* Notre Dame has such strict academic standards for its athletes unlike the SEC. Award 2.8 Rhodes Scholar points to Notre Dame! Adjusted score: 39-33.8.
* Cousins who reside in mobile homes. Remove 2 points from Bama's tally. Adjusted score: 37-33.8.
* Colt's shoulder. 0.1 points. FINAL SCORE AS IT SHOULD BE IN A JUST WORLD: 37-33.9.
If you add it all up, it was almost a moral victory for the Irish!
[Note: the previous text was written in sarcasm font.]
* Bad call on the punt return fumble recovery. Moral victory result: touchdown Notre Dame! Adjusted score: 42-21.
* Cheating Bama paid the refs. Eifert caught that ball inbounds! Moral victory result: touchdown Notre Dame plus 3 bonus "morale points"! Adjusted score: 42-31.
* Oversigning evil! Take away a field goal from Bama. Adjusted score: 39-31.
* Notre Dame has such strict academic standards for its athletes unlike the SEC. Award 2.8 Rhodes Scholar points to Notre Dame! Adjusted score: 39-33.8.
* Cousins who reside in mobile homes. Remove 2 points from Bama's tally. Adjusted score: 37-33.8.
* Colt's shoulder. 0.1 points. FINAL SCORE AS IT SHOULD BE IN A JUST WORLD: 37-33.9.
If you add it all up, it was almost a moral victory for the Irish!
[Note: the previous text was written in sarcasm font.]
The helmets touched, it wasn't a headbutt. The qb didnt even react to it. They need to stop calling incidental contact to the helmet when the qb can't even feel it.
I agree. I felt it was, but it wasn't flagrant and they could have let it go. But with things nowadays they are protecting the QB.
I think ABC and ESPN are owned by Disney. Is it possible that he can be used by either network? Did you hear his apology today about the his comments made about A J's girlfriend. At my age I can't remember them, but I think maybe ABC/ESPN wrote it???? If this is in another thread, forgive please.
I believe the reason they called it..and IMO, it look like he launched...although I do agree it was just a love tap...
Right. Like I said earlier in the thread, since CJ called for a fair catch he has a right to the ball until it hits the ground. The second Notre dame player impeded his chance to make the catch.
I finally saw the replay and I didn't notice it Monday night but you are right on. It wasn't so much the first ND that was within 1 yard but the other ND player (#8) caught the ball before the ball hit the ground. A fair catch is not over until the ball touches the ground even if it is bobbled. You will see the flag come in after the 2nd ND player touches it.
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I was thinking it was interference as soon as I saw it even before the flag was thrown. According to rule 6 I believe the first ND player caused the foul. I was really offended by the announcers getting belligerent about it, it showed their colors. It did look like the other Bama man in the play inadvertently pushed the ND man nearly into the receiver, but it wasn't deliberate and the call would stand anyway unless it was a purposeful push which should be a penalty itself. I thought it was the right call and not the first I've seen like it this year.
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