Deadspin is saying Te'o's girlfriend's death was a hoax created for publicity
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I'm been told I'm too logical, but that makes me brain hurt. It's just so illogical and does not follow any sort of linear process. I can't even understand how I could converse with someone saying this stuff. You can see a new lie covering up for an inconsistency in what he just said, rinse, repeat. It seems like the interviewer is on to him to, but he just continues like umm, ok that's a lot of bull but I'll continue.
It's like FDR in a wheelchair, the media all knew he was in it but just went on pretending he wasn't. If they don't like you, nothing will stop them from digging up dirt on you. If they like you, well it takes a heck of a lot to get them to do their job.
He will make alot more money in Hollywood than in the NFL and have a longer career with is acting skillz.
Reminds me of living in So Cal when I was young and smart" Meet a girl in a bar. Me:"hey I got some coke in my BMW, you want to go out and have a blow?" Silly So Cal Girl:"Sure!" get out into the parking lot and Me: "Damn, my BMW is stolen with my coke in it, you think we can go to your place?" Silly So Cal Girl: "Sure."
Disclaimer, not a true story but a reality about how easy it was to blind a So Cal Blond much like the media that never questioned his story. Good times.
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That transcript was the most ridiculous thing I've ever read, Thamel is the one that got dupe, not Te'o. I'm sure Te'o had a good laugh with his teammates after that interview; "seriously man, he believed every word".
ND sent a videographer and promoted this officially after they knew for a fact that she wasn't real? Forget that he told them on 12/26, they'd have plenty of reason to doubt him after all, but they got their private investigators report on the incident on 1/4!
ND? Are you just so used to getting away with it that you can be this blatant about it???
Oh lawd. Thamel really is a goon.
So Te'o says she was in a coma, but that she would tell the doctors to just call her boyfriend and have him on the phone so she could sleep. That dude is nuts. Thamel was on it, even said this is unbelieavable, and simply let it go.
Te'o wasn't duped, he was doing the duping.
Yeah... that's the thing. Thamel gives off the impression he's smelling the B.S. but just lets it ride. He even points out at the beginning things like Stanford having no record of the girl but passing them off with excuses.
This is from a ND student reporter:
Yet, even before the Michigan State game, Manti Te’o was being questioned by his teammates. Apparently Manti had only “seen” Lennay once — but I assume “seen” was a rather loose term used for “chatted with online” (however, this is extremely complicated to understand since they were reportedly talking since 2009, according to the Te’o family). The debate among teammates wasn’t whether or not Manti actually knew this girl — it was clear that they had been in contact; no, players just didn’t think that it was fair to call Lennay Kekua Manti’s girlfriend, period (it is well-known on campus that he has had relations with other girls during his time at Notre Dame). They recognized what was going on for what it was — a terrible publicity stunt used to fuel Manti Te’o's Heisman campaign. In fact, many of the players privately commented that they didn’t want the students to wear leis in support of Manti and wouldn’t participate themselves — they cited that the team never responded so publicly to tragic events for other players. But there was also the feeling that Manti didn’t deserve to benefit from publicity from the death of somebody he barely knew.
A Notre Dame Student’s Take On Manti Teo’s “Dead Girlfriend” Hoax - Tyler Moorehead - ND Campus Rep
yep, bottom line is people want to believe in something like this. they'll throw logic out the window because they are so blinded by their willingness to believe.
Here's the basis for Manti's "victim" status if the statements by ND and he are accurate:
There are plenty of people that likely are victims of the first two items on this list, especially regarding online communication. A few people are guilty of item 3 and there are cases of people beginning rather lengthy and quality relationships online, but it's probably a dangerous thing to do. Item 4 should have been a huge red flag and that should have been the end of the story. Items 5 through 8 are an issue only because Te'o was oblivious to the huge red flag of item 4. Item 9 is the result of having been gullible enough for all of the other items.
However, if the statements by Te'o and ND are correct, then there is still a second hoax and that is the one that was perpetrated by Manti Te'o and his parents.
In the first hoax, Manti may have been the victim. In the second hoax, he is clearly the villain and the victims are the fans that admired him, the journalists that trusted him, the organizations that lauded him and presented him with awards, the kids that idolized him and looked up to him as a role model, and then the biggest victim of all is trust itself.
If this person who was built up so much as a leader and a moral icon could so flippantly lie to the public, who will we feel is trustworthy from hence?
- He was contacted by someone using a fake persona
- He began conversing with them on a regular basis both online and on the phone
- He began to have feelings for them
- He asked to meet them multiple times, but the other person always failed to meet him for various reasons
- The person told him that they had a car wreck
- The person told him that they were diagnosed with leukemia
- The person told him that they had a bone marrow transplant
- The alleged siblings of the person told him that the person had died
- He believes that the person died and mourns them
- He is contacted almost 3 months later apparently by the person and told that they are not dead
There are plenty of people that likely are victims of the first two items on this list, especially regarding online communication. A few people are guilty of item 3 and there are cases of people beginning rather lengthy and quality relationships online, but it's probably a dangerous thing to do. Item 4 should have been a huge red flag and that should have been the end of the story. Items 5 through 8 are an issue only because Te'o was oblivious to the huge red flag of item 4. Item 9 is the result of having been gullible enough for all of the other items.
However, if the statements by Te'o and ND are correct, then there is still a second hoax and that is the one that was perpetrated by Manti Te'o and his parents.
- Claimed in interviews that Manti and Lennay met at a Stanford football game in 2009.
- Claimed in interviews that Lennay traveled to Hawaii and met with Manti there multiple times.
- Insinuated that the relationship was personal and not merely online.
- Allowed the press to promulgate misrepresentations without informing them that the stories were misrepresentations.
- Took full advantage of the genuine sympathy elicited by the misrepresentations to assist him in gaining publicity and, in turn, gaining an advantage in competition for post-season awards.
- Built a following of impressionable kids based somewhat on the premise of overcoming tragedy.
In the first hoax, Manti may have been the victim. In the second hoax, he is clearly the villain and the victims are the fans that admired him, the journalists that trusted him, the organizations that lauded him and presented him with awards, the kids that idolized him and looked up to him as a role model, and then the biggest victim of all is trust itself.
If this person who was built up so much as a leader and a moral icon could so flippantly lie to the public, who will we feel is trustworthy from hence?
Too little, too late ND. If the students and teammates were so against it, why didn't it come out until now?
I read about this this morning and thought it was creepy. Then one of my co-workers told me his Brokeback Mountain theory and it really got creepy.
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